55: Erwin B. Valencia - NBA Wellness Expert, the "Godfather of Gratitude," Non-Profit & Web3 Founder on the Power of Gratitude and Much More

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Is there a Tagalog?
Equivalent of fomo?

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And if so, how can we practice
mindfulness to overcome it?

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How good martial arts?
Teach us to strike a balance

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between aggressiveness and
Stillness.

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And as Bruce Lee, once stated
flow like water, how can teams

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leverage this?
Ethos to improve performance in

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the NBA which is typically very
adrenaline and fight or flight

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driven?
How can starting our day with

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gratitude.
Help maximize the 4ps

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positivity, peace, passion and
purpose, each and every day.

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Day and what is the purpose of
gratitude gang and grasshopper

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project and how is the quote
Godfather of gratitude

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leveraging?
These and other web three

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initiatives to inspire at least
1 million Filipinos and achieved

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many other incredible outcomes.
In the next five years stay

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tuned as we touch on these and
many other topics on this week's

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episode of untether your life.
Well, I'm to untether your life,

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Michelle that empowers you to
own your own health and break

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free of templates for managing
physical and mental wellness.

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And looks at Key issues,
impacting the South Asian

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diaspora.
I am your host to Kilt or Scar

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and I'm passionate about the
power of conversation to

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catalyze change the term
polymath gets thrown around

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quite a bit.
These days with many people

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positioning themselves as
experts in XYZ.

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However, a lot of times, it's as
they say, all hat and no cattle

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and then there's Irwin be
Valencia, who despite wearing

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many hats It's both literally
and figuratively.

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Truly embodies the term Irwin or
e as he's commonly known as a

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professional polymath.
Well there's expert

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high-performance Sports
clinician life.

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Coach Community nurturer
nonprofit.

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Founder mentor and dance ninja.
He served as the medical and

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performance lead for the New
York Knicks and recently shifted

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his role to focus on the team's
wellness and Rehabilitation, he

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initiated the team's
mindfulness, program and started

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the first ever in season daily
breastwork.

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And in Ancient setting program,
the NBA he brings a truly

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holistic approach to
professional sports colliding,

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Sports Science, with clinical
expertise with mindfulness, with

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positive, psychology to athlete,
wellness, and Care.

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He's The First Filipino raised
and educated in the Philippines

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to be hired full-time on medical
staff of any us sports team and

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succeeded in doing it.
Both in Major League Baseball

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and the NBA, his 501, c, 3
non-profit mentorship program,

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grasshopper project brings true
mentorship possibilities too

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many.
In the health wellness and

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performance Industries.
Otherwise left without guidance

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to succeed and help them become
changemakers and thought leaders

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in the space.
He has recently emerged as a web

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three thought leader with
gratitude gang hacking the way

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we give back.
Gratitude gang is also in the

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process of becoming a 501, c, 3,
non-profit.

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And with that, let's get
untethered.

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So Erwin, it's a sincere
pleasure to have you on the

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show, man, on the kill, thanks
for having me, dude.

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I've listened to some of the
episodes you have with my boy,

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Jay G.
And Our Soma breath brother and

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it was very cool.
I like the flow of how you did

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things and I was like, you know,
you know I have some time today

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with us to do it now.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Where else are also will be like

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a couple of months.
There's also the Power of Now,

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it can't be overstated.
So yeah, let's go ahead and do

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this.
Is there anything else?

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You'd like to add an addition to
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I had just laid out there.
I guess one of the things is to

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clarify when I was first brought
into the NBA was, which is my

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dream.
I was brought in as a team

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physical therapist and then for
three years, I became the head

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of medicine and Performance for
the team, under the tutelage of

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Phil Jackson and then afterwards
with the pandemic happening and

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changes happening in the
organization.

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I find myself back to being a
team Vizio, but more

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importantly, now the wellness
lead of the team allowing me to

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really do most of the stuff that
I do today.

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And to be able to bring things
like mindfulness by hacking and

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things, we've learned,
ironically through Mindvalley

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into the high-performance Sports
World, which is a rarity

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nowadays.
So, Lucky to be considered some

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sort of a weird unicorn in the
World of Sport and I'm proud of

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it.
I mean I wear many hats.

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Yeah.
Right.

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I think you were saying on one
podcast someone asked you, if

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that's it so Zoom background but
that's a 90 know, it's real.

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Yeah.
And you hear all?

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Yeah.
I guess I want to talk obviously

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let's kind of go outside in.
What is your exact title with

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currently?
In my current title now is is

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I'm a team physical therapist
and wellness.

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Lead for the New York Knicks
basketball team, okay?

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My date, and when people think
about sports there's this what

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you'd call like a militaristic
raw added to where it's just

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about.
I think in one of your

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interviews to talk about kind of
like a gladiator mindset where

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it's like, you know, let's go
into battle, let's fight to the

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death, obviously basketball is
not as it's not quite MMA, it's

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not quite as physical as some of
these other sports, but there

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is, you know, there is quite a
bit of aggression.

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It's very adrenaline-fueled, but
you as you know, given your

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background You take a little bit
of a different mindset.

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If you could talk to me about
that, sort of what's the mindset

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and Ethos, you're trying to
cultivate both for yourself, as

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well as the players that you
work with, for me.

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I patterned after my own
experiences, I think martial

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arts, which was my entry point
into mindset, practice, and my

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entry point into meditation and
mindfulness showed me that

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there's a possible way to not
only be aggressive, but also

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find Stillness.
And I started learning about

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meditation as a related.
Martial arts.

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When I was seven years old.
And by the time I was 12 as a

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black belt, I started teaching
that and I think I was always

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fascinated.
How martial arts have always

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combined this aggression, but
this peacefulness as well.

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I mean early history of books
of, but samurais and ninjas they

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come from the hacha scenes for
speak, but the fighting monks,

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which Blended a sense of
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creativity, but also can kick
ass.

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So I think was always
fascinated.

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About the duality of this.
And so being able to be that and

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embody it completely being
trained at that is very

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different from, let's say being
trained as a monk.

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You know, like the straight
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So to speak.
I think that's why I fit

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perfectly.
If there's one place for me to

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fit perfectly and it's in sport,
I think it's all about

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performing at a high level, but
also finding peace and Stillness

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within that chaos allowing
yourself to be the best versions

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of yourselves as much as
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I love that mindset because
you're obviously we want to win

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but we don't want to kind of win
at all costs because there's a

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lot of literature, there's a lot
of research about the whole

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fight or flight response and I
think that you will get that

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temporary burst of energy will
get that temporary gain but that

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can be short-lived and it takes
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You know when you're stressed
out the amount of cortisol

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that's running through your
veins, it can have really long

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term effects.
And so I think if you take that

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sort of that Long View, Try to
harness your energy through

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things like prawn.
I am through breath, work, etc.

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That can be really effective.
I'd love to hear more about,

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maybe if we could drill down a
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some of the practices you have
in terms of meditation and then

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also in line with that I think
I'd seen I don't know if this is

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on your business card per se but
you're you know you're known as

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The Godfather of gratitude on.
So I'm sure that will interweave

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in terms of how gratitude fits
into that and teaching

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meditation and maintaining that
That sense of Stillness that you

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talked about for me, my
practice, it begins and ends

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with gratitude.
And with that brings the

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positivity of who I am and the
energy that I can harness

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positivity is where it starts
from me.

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And then from there, that
positivity allows me to then

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have peace.
And then at peace will then

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allow me to determine from the
quietness of what my passion is

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and whatever things are
passionate about and then in

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turn allow me to.
Then find my purpose and You

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work on the purpose itself and I
think those four peas strangely

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enough.
I said that really leads to the

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fact that it will always begin
for me by waking up each morning

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and being thankful that I can
merely take a breath and be

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alive to then be able to then
impact more people in this day.

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Then have that for another day.
I think it became really more

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evident for me when a few years
ago, I made a commitment.

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It meant to make sure that I was
clear with my mission, which was

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to impact and Inspire, at least,
1 million, Filipinos directly

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and personally in the next five
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And so it's important then to
begin from that and to know what

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your bigger purpose is and then
what are the steps that you can

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take in a smaller aspect of
things to then get you there.

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One is to be able to have great
self-awareness and what do you

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need when you're tired, you need
to thicken up and take.

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Up.
If what sets you grounded each

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day, it's for me, it's the
meditate.

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I have to start my day with not
only taking a breath and being

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grateful that I'm alive, but
also going through my gratitude

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hacks and what are the things I
do in order to say?

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Okay, now I'm set now my my cup
is full.

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Now my battery levels are
optimized to 100.

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So now I can continue to give
not only am I a servant to

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athletes and all those I work
with but also I'm a bigger

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servant to the generations.
That have either a come before.

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Or me or the generations that
are coming after me, who have

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dreams, whether their migrant
kids or whether their first

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Generations, or maybe they're
coming from more challenging

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situations, where all they need
is to see that there's a

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possibility and they can latch
on that possibility, find their

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passion and then know that
there's a purpose behind it.

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And I think for me it starts
with gratitude and so by doing

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that it gives me that sense of
okay.

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Now I know where I'm going to go
and I know because I Have this,

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that's within me and then I can
then boom expand this

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everywhere.
And that's why I think it's

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funny.
And I reminded earlier I

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mentioned here, though, everyone
asked me, the question took

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word, you have all the energy
you do so much, take care of so

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many people, where do you get
the energy?

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And for me, when I get asked
that question it weirdly simple,

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it comes from being grateful,
it's comes from the fact that

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I'm thankful that I have another
chance to impact the world and

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and I take it by the horns and
let's go, let's do this.

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If I can impact one person.
Person.

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Then I'm happy if I can't get
back, 10, cool.

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If I can impact 100 within one
day, that's Legacy.

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You know, I count my blessings
every day and I know that, you

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know, some of us are more
blessed than others and because

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I am blessed, then, how can I
use that fact that I am blessed

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to change the world now, that's
really powerful.

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And this is not something that's
just pie in the sky and just

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like some idealistic woowoo
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There are scientific studies
that show the benefits of

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gratitude.
When they talk about performance

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and I think more Fortune 500,
These are making it more of a

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practice for their employees
with holistic.

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Strategies for mental Wellness,
whether it's meditation, breath,

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work.
And then gratitude Journal, if

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that's become just as
commonplace in Suburban, moms

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has a cup of Starbucks latte or
Tioga Pass.

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True.
What do not diminish it but you

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know, I know it's it is taking
on like wildfire for sure, it

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is, but unfortunately, also
there's almost a dark side of

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gratitude.
There's toxic positivity where

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because it Is such a thing as
you talked about the Starbucks

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moms and stuff like that.
No, no shade on Starbucks.

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It's a loving this job.
I got my cup right, come on, I

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think sometimes people use
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of Mel Robbins you would say
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Sometimes people use gratitude
as a jackhammer into things,

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they can't fulfill in life
rather than the springboard that

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allows them to go in further to
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to do.
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sometimes, but because now it's
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like, Go online, take a selfie.
So what are you grateful for

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what you're grateful for?
But then that goes in and goes

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out, there's nothing that binds
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And I think it's important to
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grateful?
And I know you asked me before

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about the word accountability
and gratitude and I think this

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is where this takes the place of
where if you are grateful for

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something, why are you grateful
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And when you do that, and you
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the answer that question, then
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solid thing that you're holding
on to because now, Nobody else

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who maybe has seen.
Let's see if it's a post that

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you had or maybe you're sharing
the Gratitude with some guests

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or even just saying to yourself.
It's like you're holding

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yourself accountable.
I'm grateful today because I'm

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taking another breath because I
can create impact on this world.

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So I'm holding myself
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I don't need to share it with
everyone else but when I do that

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it makes it real its becomes a
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And I think it's important for
people to remember that if they

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are grateful for something that
they make it a real situation

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rather than a fleeting And which
doesn't really hold ground for

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anything.
There's only the beautiful thing

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about gratitude and practice of
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Is that gratitude out of every
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that we get or just seeing that
we do as human beings is one of

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the only things that has no
negative polarity you can be

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happy but you can still be sad.
You can be joyous but have anger

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when you with this Joy of yours
but when you're in the state of

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gratitude is no other emotion
that comes into your system.

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I mean it's like You can't be
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You can't be grateful, but then
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The same time is physically,
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impossible.
The only thing that comes close

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to that is being in a true state
of mindfulness is not even flow.

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It's just being in the state of
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And so going back to the term
gratitude and obviously, you're

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literally wearing it on your
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Fuck.
Yeah, sweatshirt.

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Tell me more about some of these
initiatives.

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You really exemplify the
hyphenate, ethos, Which is, you

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know, obviously your day job is
being a trainer for the next but

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also you're doing so many things
with like web 3 and some of

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these nonprofits.
So if we could start with

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gratitude gang and if we could
go into other initiatives or

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what, I'd love to hear more
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Yeah.
Gratitude gang with the raft

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again for life.
So, grab the gang started as my

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community on clubhouse when
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I was an early adopter, the
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And as I was one of the first,
if you don't mind me asking her

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when what Lee.
I mean because is it something

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similar to Twitter spaces?
Or is that kind of what?

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Yeah, so Clubhouse was the
original Twitter spaces, okay?

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Kind of like the OG of it will,
G of audio and visual audio is

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the way.
And during the time where people

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couldn't have face-to-face
conversations in real time, it

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became a source for people to
have community and very blessed

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to and lucky to find out about
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then start to things.
Even though technically you

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weren't really allowed to start
to clubs I managed to do it.

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For some strange reason, one was
the by okubo club which is the

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first-ever Filipino Club on
clubhouse and the largest one,

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you know, we have about eight
9,000 members the grown here and

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we were like the O Gog of all
the Filipino clubs and then

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started growing all the Filipino
clubs and then after that and

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then the simultaneously I
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felt like it was an opportunity
for me to grow a community of

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people that were Were passionate
about gratitude and to be able

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to say what they're grateful for
and why on a daily basis was

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something that I wanted to hear
from people and hold them

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accountable.
And sure, you know, I did it

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every almost every day for a
year straight and it was

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interesting.
The story is and we grew to me

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in the club now is almost 50,000
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So and so what I did is like
okay maybe as people are now

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opening up and meeting people in
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social audio was kind of going
down and the big thing was

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coming up was the web Three
world inanity.

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And I said, well, how can I
Channel my community that I grew

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in clubhouse to be able to
create an impact on this world?

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And it was ironically December
of 2021 when a massive typhoon

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hit the Philippines, decimating,
a number of islands that were

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some of the top islands in the
world that period of time.

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And so I have always given back
to the Philippines to every year

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that I go home.
I try to do an initiative and

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this hit close to heart.
I said, I don't just keep on

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buying.
Or creating GoFundMe page has to

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buy sardines and rice and ramen
noodles and give them the

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government can do that.
I mean, this is food that you'll

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get every Supply, but how can we
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That provides maybe jobs or
opportunities for other people

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to be part of a bigger
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And so I switch from Greg to
gang, the clubhouse Community to

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gravity gang.
The web three project by hiring

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a creative director and artists
to come from the Philippines.

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I hired a whole team from the
Philippines from my community

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manager, to my marketing head.
To, and every Filipino that I

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met maybe through Clubhouse and
Beyond to say, how can I support

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you guys with the challenges
that you're having posts?

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Pandemic of maybe not getting
jobs or not being able to do

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things in person?
And so let's do this.

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But for the purpose of
rebuilding schools that were

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decimated by this massive
typhoon back in the Philippines

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and to be able to provide Mental
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initially, I was just got really
excited about this and I said

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who's the one person I I can ask
the maybe can help guide me to

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at least understanding of what
to do and how to begin.

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And I was very lucky enough that
one of the alphas as they call

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it at that time and still is is
a guy named Gary vaynerchuk and

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Gary Gloria.
Yeah, somebody I've known since

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2000 and I don't care.
He's in 2015 and the 2015-16

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early 16 and so he's always been
somewhat of a mentor to me.

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Not officially, but every time
I've asked about stuff you

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always introduce me to guys won.
He introduced me to this young

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guy that he said was pretty
popular on YouTube, not knowing

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that, that guy was, is now the
most famous YouTuber in the

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planet named mr.
Beast and so many opportunities

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like that.
And he always guided me.

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If I needed to do something, he
was fascinated by it.

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And because web 3 indemnities
for the big thing I asked him

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and he said, I like that idea.
Let's do it.

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Let's set up meetings and let's
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I just the one thing you do is
get a team together and within a

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week from that moment in
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the Hurricane, or the typhoon
that hit the Philippines had a

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team by December 20 21, right?
Create officially created a, you

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know, a team and a company that
then launch this one of the

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first ever social impact and of
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30.
So it's that was granted gang.

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And then grabbed the gang and
then we were going heavy, we're

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moving up and then the right
when we launched the Ukrainian

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War happened.
And so imagine all of that and

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suddenly drop that came down
after that.

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Well, why do we need to invest
in these things?

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When things in this World and
freaking value human tents area

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and then also somebody that
believe in social impact and me

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too.
I said, why don't need to put

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time in this when that's a
bigger, the people actually

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dying.
And yes, you know, it is

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something to be to help the
Philippines because that's where

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I'm from.
But that was caused by a natural

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disaster that was that is now
being healed.

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This is still happening or just
happening and so it was a tough

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time, you know, a tough time and
things got even worse with the

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crypto winter that we've just
experienced and So what I did

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towards the end of the leader of
last year, I said, how can I

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make this so that it's more
permanent and it's more

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understandable for more than
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I turn it to a full nonprofit.
So now, gratitude gang, which

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was once the community in
clubhouse which then became a

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web 3 and if the project is now
on its way to get its 501 c 3.

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So in a couple weeks we'll be
officially a 501 c 3 and so that

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is something which still with
the initiative and the mission

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to remote schools, hit by
natural.

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In the Philippines.
And then afterwards provide the

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mental health services which
sometimes we forget that these

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kids who go through a trauma,
even natural disaster, trauma,

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they need support and yeah.
Well, forget that other kids.

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They're resilient they can
handle it resilient.

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Yeah, I hate when people say
that I mean it's like, just

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because a kid is still, you
know, they've gone through

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trauma and they're performing
well in school and they have

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friends, I mean this stuff,
manifest, it later in life.

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I mean, there's a book.
I think it's called the body

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keeps score.
Yes, the body.

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And or yeah, my wife is like,
she's just Just absolute barred.

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My daughter bought it for her
for her birthday and it's funny

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every podcast were on.
We talk about that book and it

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seems like everyone's either
ready.

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Have you read that book then to
about the last?

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Yeah, it's spot on because it's
just like, there's so much

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trauma.
Then this is common with

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immigrants where we're spending
20 plates.

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And we're doing so amazing on
paper, but then boo mental

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health kind of takes whole.
That was my journey personally

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where it was like, I had
everything.

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And then with not addressing
mental health issues, it

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literally almost destroyed my
life.

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Unfortunately, I had an amazing
partner who was able to get me

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out of that, what's been your
experience with mental health,

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in terms of what has worked for
you.

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Because, you know, you're a very
positive person.

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You're very lot of sunshine
coming from those hats head,

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brimming.
Pardon the pun with with

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positive them aren't dead, Joko
ads, go dive.

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I have three kids.
So, I'm entitled, but yeah, tell

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me more when, because the reason
I'm asking is, you know, our

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this podcast is very focused on
chattering the stigma.

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Of mental health within the
South Asian diaspora because

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it's a very taboo topic.
Something that?

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Because of denial, because of
Shame.

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It's something that we didn't
really focus on until it was too

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late.
And fortunately got a second

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chance much gratitude for that.
But I'd love to hear more about

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your journey with mental health.
What, what has been effective

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for you?
For four major mental health.

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Obviously, we talk about
gratitude but maybe she could

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share some other things that it
was for training and during that

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period of time where we Were
slated to have this massive

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launch and then the drop that
came with it like a roller,

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right?
It was mopping the first time in

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my life.
After a very long time, that I

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actually went through about of
true depression of fear of

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anxiety.
And even though I still had an,

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I still have some one of the
most amazing jobs in the world.

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I felt like I was stuck in limbo
somewhere because this had my

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heart and soul because this was
going to support kids in.

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The Philippines and and people
didn't get it.

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I just understand what people
didn't get it.

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You know, in the end to two
things that really helped me was

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one my team saying, hey look,
you need to take care of

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yourself first, dude, if you
can't be mr.

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Positive mr.
Gratitude.

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How can people number one follow
you and number two by your nft,

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you know it's like you are the
end of T is the Sunflower is you

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and of the sunflower doesn't
exist without you being the

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sunflower.
And so when my team said you

451
00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,400
need to do you for We'll handle
it, you know for a little bit

452
00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:06,100
that gave me permission after
like two weeks or so to say okay

453
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,900
not let me get back to my
gratitude practice let me get

454
00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:11,700
back to my meditation the
morning instead of focusing on

455
00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:14,700
this craziness that's happening
right now of answering all these

456
00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:18,200
questions on this cord from The
Madness of the memberships and

457
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,700
so being given permission and
giving yourself, permission is

458
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:25,100
the key to begin the healing.
And I think most people forget

459
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,200
that that needs to happen.
First people like it's almost

460
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200
almost counterintuitive And I
need to fix myself, I need to

461
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,900
fix something, but when you do
that, you're literally hitting a

462
00:23:33,908 --> 00:23:35,500
wall, you have to give
permission.

463
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,100
First the door will open so you
can walk through.

464
00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:41,500
I think people forget that.
And so you remember, I'm your

465
00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,600
given permission then you give
yourself permission and then the

466
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,400
process of Healing Begins,
number two, I think it's

467
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,600
important to find a place and
people that ground you for me,

468
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,800
whether it's like an old best
friend that I've known forever,

469
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,400
that maybe I haven't spoken to
in a while from Country that

470
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,500
lives in another country now, or
you know, somebody that like

471
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,100
just knows me for who I am or
calling my friend Philippines.

472
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,800
Are we just going somewhere
where it reminds me of home?

473
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,900
I think it's important to know
where that Safe Haven of yours

474
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,700
is.
And some of the things I teach

475
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:20,000
some of my athletes and those I
work with is always, what is

476
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,400
this one place?
That is your safe place.

477
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,800
What is your Paradise?
What is your ultimate vision of

478
00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:28,100
what home is, or what you get
grounded in?

479
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:30,600
And whether it's real I'll or
whether it's something you

480
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,400
create in your mind as long as
it's something, you know, and

481
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600
then they can feel with every
bone in your body.

482
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,700
Hold that and make that your
space, you don't even have to

483
00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:42,400
tell anybody it's yours.
If you have a real place then

484
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200
even better because then if you
can go there, then you can find

485
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,100
yourself being more grounded and
then sit and Stillness there,

486
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,400
look around and be like, okay,
is this where I'm happy?

487
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,200
It's my happy place.
If you can't, or you been there

488
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,100
a long time ago, and it's still
on your head and keep it there,

489
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,800
but it's yours.
It's yours to have as your

490
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,900
safety.
Spots.

491
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,800
And I think it's important to
have that, and I think that's

492
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,800
how I was able to really get
back into who I was after going

493
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,100
through that.
And the number three, you have

494
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,400
to be out in nature.
I think people forget the

495
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,100
importance of what nature does
to you, even if it's ever so

496
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:22,100
slightly, whether the weather
outside is too cold for you to

497
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,800
go outside or something, find
every excuse to get grounded

498
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,900
outside.
And so, we're talking about that

499
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:32,200
mental, kind of Roundedness
where you get and that, and

500
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,700
also, the people that helped you
get grounded.

501
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,600
But now we're talking about just
nature in general.

502
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:41,100
I mean, right?
That dose of sunlight helps so

503
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:45,000
much and people forget how
easily accessible it can be it

504
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,200
but not being taken advantage of
unfortunately, yeah, it's so

505
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:49,800
true.
What you said?

506
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,700
I mean, just reconnecting with
nature, reconnecting with

507
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,500
Community.
There's a son script term that I

508
00:25:54,508 --> 00:25:58,600
always loved his son God you
know about Estonia and it's I

509
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,800
know you had made up Valley made
me video as well on Instagram,

510
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,500
but I was talking about the
three C's which is content

511
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:08,600
community and connection.
These are, when I think about

512
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,900
things that I learn, whether
it's breathwork or meditation,

513
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:15,300
you know, I can sit in a room
and watch YouTube videos till

514
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,900
the cows come home, take notes,
get certifications.

515
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:20,100
But at the end of the day, I
mean if I don't have somebody

516
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:24,700
that either, I'm learning from
or teaching it to, I really

517
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:28,700
think that the learning is it's
not complete and the same thing

518
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:31,300
is true about What sort of
filling your cup when it comes

519
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,000
to happiness?
It's about having that Community

520
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
because again, you can take
selfies till the cows come home.

521
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
You can write your Journal
etcetera.

522
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,300
But I think having that sharing
experience, it is really that

523
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:46,400
that secret sauce because I
don't know which study was but

524
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,000
they said a lot of causes of
physical distress are brought on

525
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,300
by loneliness.
I think it was like a study done

526
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:57,500
at Harvard and I think Community
is definitely something that is

527
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,800
in this age even with all these
Caishen tools like you mentioned

528
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,700
Discord social media, we are
still probably the most isolated

529
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,400
disconnected generations of all
time.

530
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:11,500
You know what's funny to is.
One of the things that I kind of

531
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:14,700
forgot to mention is one of the
research has shown.

532
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:18,600
This is one of the best ways to
get over depression and

533
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,100
loneliness is actually to be of
service volunteering somewhere

534
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:27,200
or maybe spending a day at an
old person's home or working in

535
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,500
a soup kitchen for the day in
May makes you realize that

536
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:35,000
sometimes the things that bother
you aren't as real as some of

537
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800
the challenges other people are
going through and when that

538
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,700
realization comes back to you,
then it changes your outlook.

539
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,800
And I think it's important for
people to take a moment to

540
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:48,800
recognize that as they go
around, going through their own

541
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400
challenges, is that there are
also other people that are going

542
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,500
through worse things, and not to
demean what their challenges

543
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,100
are.
But when you serve others, it

544
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,800
gives you a better insight.
From a black perspective

545
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:04,000
perspective, more than anything
else.

546
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,300
The flip side of that, we talk
about Community, but then

547
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,400
there's always competition as
asian-americans.

548
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,700
There's this tendency, there's
this comparison trap.

549
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:15,600
I know, I think in one, one of
your interviews, you talked

550
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,500
about how you sort of felt like,
you were behind the eight ball

551
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,400
in terms of your training
because you felt like, maybe

552
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
there are some people who are
ahead of you another concept

553
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,900
that that you reference.
I always loved studying

554
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,800
languages because there are
certain terms of other Languages

555
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,800
that don't always translate but
there is one term used called

556
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,100
that I taught at that.
Tell me more about that are the

557
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:39,100
concept about Todd's.
It sounds like that's the

558
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:41,200
Filipino equivalent of fomo,
maybe.

559
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,200
I don't know.
Like maybe I actually did like

560
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200
isolation it was it's fomo
before fomo.

561
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000
It's right.
That it's this weird sense that

562
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,200
you you need to get something
done and got done now.

563
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,800
And and this impatience that
people have rather than taking a

564
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,100
moment to kind of like Analyze
or even feel whether it's the

565
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,100
right choice to make or the
right direction to go and I do.

566
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,300
And it's very it's caught up
mainly by, a lot of emotions and

567
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:10,500
one of this motion is funny
enough as you talk about taught,

568
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,100
that's a very Filipina work.
Another filipino word that's

569
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,400
actually in the Webster.
Dictionary is a word called

570
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,800
kilig and collecting butterflies
in your stomach.

571
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:23,200
There's no other language in
this world that has One Singular

572
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,500
word for what it feels like when
you feel like you have

573
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:30,600
butterflies in your stomach,
particularly vegetables, Kili

574
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:34,700
hearing, okay, I Lig, it's like
you get killings.

575
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,000
You see somebody you like
romantically here, you get

576
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,400
killing because somebody, your
crush that it is your crush,

577
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,100
kind of like Taps you on the
shoulder and you're like crying,

578
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:47,000
would you like oh I'm I'm still
parked illegally know when I

579
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,700
post.
And so what happens is that when

580
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,700
you get this feeling of
colleague, you feel like you

581
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:56,200
want to act like oh, so your
first version, I didn't see ya

582
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,400
shy.
But then like, what?

583
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,000
If I don't get another
opportunity.

584
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,500
Say hello and like and it's
usually your friends that tell

585
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,900
you Aang you better get on it
and so you're like feeling of

586
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:09,300
this this at that feeling where
you're like I gotta go talk to

587
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:09,800
her.
Now.

588
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,100
Somebody touches you and your
shoulders I gotta go because she

589
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,200
want this feeling this emotion
that you have.

590
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:18,900
So it's kind of funny is so it's
been an interesting journey to

591
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:22,600
look at my you know one language
growing up and seeing some of

592
00:30:22,608 --> 00:30:25,300
the words.
I have no direct translation to

593
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,900
any other language and what that
actually encompasses and it's

594
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:30,600
been Of funny.
And I thought there's one of

595
00:30:30,608 --> 00:30:32,600
those were how can we battle at
that?

596
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,100
How can we be friends?
Can we be more present?

597
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:39,700
Pause take a breath maybe and
allow things to happen in front

598
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,200
of us, rather than forcing
things because we just want it

599
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,300
done.
Pushing the issue.

600
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:48,100
So to speak, is that something
you faced a lot growing up as,

601
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:51,100
you know, a child of immigrants
or like needing to make it?

602
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:55,300
Yeah.
I think even from manifested I

603
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:58,000
was in baseball for eight years
as the resident one of the first

604
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,500
ever Major League rehab.
Actors in all of Major League

605
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,100
Baseball.
After I finish my tenure in

606
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:08,900
2012, I had an opportunity with
two NBA teams to get into it and

607
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:13,100
two NBA teams.
I was so a thought that instead

608
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:16,300
of just letting the process
happen, I called almost every

609
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:19,300
day, I sent emails all the time,
like, hey, how's it going?

610
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:23,200
Just checking in just seeing if
you need anything, which is

611
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,500
funny.
It's like I know that we all

612
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:30,100
have this curiosity to find out
whether or or not, you know,

613
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,300
we're going to get, you know,
the gig or something like that.

614
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,900
But sometimes coming from the
flipside because I've been on

615
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:37,500
the receiving end of it.
The person that really sends me

616
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:40,200
that email every single day or
tries to call me every single

617
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,700
day, or DMZ.
Now it's the worst because

618
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,300
Nathan dmu.
Now, they've actually you're

619
00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:46,700
like, no, you are not the
person?

620
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,500
You're not it, you're not the
person I'm going to hire or tell

621
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,900
a recommend because you are just
do what that rather than like

622
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Austin receiving.
People being the moment saying,

623
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,500
like, you know what, let's look
at this person's like, I was

624
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,900
like, you know what, I think
would be a perfect fit, but on

625
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:04,900
the other side be more to like
be have that patience and

626
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,700
confidence saying that, if it
works out, then it was meant to

627
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:09,200
be.
Then if it's not a, maybe I'm

628
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000
meant to go somewhere else.
The word I use, I don't know if

629
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
you follow, like, Michael
Beckwith at all, but he talks a

630
00:32:14,808 --> 00:32:17,600
lot about, like, surrender.
You know, I'm like trying to

631
00:32:17,608 --> 00:32:20,400
make things happen.
The thing that I find most

632
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,900
powerful is, you know, in
corporations.

633
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:24,700
They have that trust fall
exercise.

634
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,700
Yeah.
You're surrounded by a group and

635
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,200
you just have to church
building.

636
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
That bond is Falling back and
trusting that the person will

637
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,000
catch you on that.
They won't respond to that,

638
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Deanna to the point is.
Yeah, when you relinquish

639
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,000
control, whether it's over that
promotion or whether sometimes

640
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000
it's over your health, you know?
Because we are living this Web

641
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,700
MD world, where we have a cough
or cold and we just Google it

642
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:52,800
and we got to get all the
supplements and all the right

643
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,200
train, you know, all the things
to fix this problem and

644
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,700
sometimes it's just about
surrendering and going back to

645
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,500
your Earlier image about
Stillness and you know just

646
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,400
letting the water run.
Its course.

647
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,700
Sometimes there can be a lot of
power in that.

648
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,300
Yeah, absolutely, I mean letting
it go letting it flow my friend

649
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,300
just like Bruce Lee would say
like flow like water and I think

650
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,400
that's one of my favorite
sayings is because sometimes in

651
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
life we can't control and one of
my managers was a big

652
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,100
inspiration to me was a big
motivational speaker.

653
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,400
Clint Hurdle when he was with
the Pirates.

654
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:25,800
You know, said this quote and
said, there's only really two

655
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,500
things we can control in this
world that's attitude and

656
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,400
effort.
Once you have those two, all you

657
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,100
can do after that is leave
everything to God.

658
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,300
And so having a good attitude
and knowing that you put the

659
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,600
effort in order for you to
achieve what it is.

660
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,700
You want to achieve Insha'Allah
if God wills it once you get

661
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,600
that done then you know that you
know that you're right path.

662
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,500
Sometimes if you force that hand
too much, then what you thought

663
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,800
was your destiny is now not
because you've pushed it too

664
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,100
hard and now that wall is coming
back at you.

665
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Instead, they like water flow.
And be that flowing river that

666
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,100
allows you to go inside the
mouth, especially where it's

667
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,900
meant to be.
Couldn't agree more, you know,

668
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:09,199
we were talking about cultural
aspects, retirement language, a

669
00:34:09,207 --> 00:34:11,300
taut and everything.
One of the things

670
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:13,500
Congratulations, by the way, I
saw that you would named one of

671
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,600
the top 75 most influential
filipino-american, you know,

672
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,699
this podcast is about.
We primarily focused on the

673
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:24,400
South Asian experience, we
haven't really talked much about

674
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,800
Filipino background.
So I wanted to understand

675
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,100
culturally, what is your sense,
you know, being a Pino American

676
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,800
being someone who's very plugged
into that Community?

677
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,900
What has been your sense of the
Filipino experience in terms of

678
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:37,800
assimilation?
You know?

679
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,600
Do you feel like you're being
heard more?

680
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,699
I'll answer beginning with the
fact that free Filipinos are one

681
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:45,400
of the most adaptable people in
this one.

682
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,800
The world.
And we do it with a smile.

683
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,900
So you can put us in the middle
of Saudi Arabia.

684
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:53,199
You can put us in the middle of
Italy, you can put as the middle

685
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,100
anywhere and we can find a way
to blend in.

686
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:58,400
You won't even know where we're
from, but then we'll do

687
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,900
everything we do with this.
Island.

688
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:02,100
So and hence, the reason why
we're one of the friendliest

689
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,500
people in the world, we were
raised to serve and to serve

690
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:10,100
with a smile and because we have
the sense of gratitude growing

691
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,700
up where there are many people
who have and but there's also a

692
00:35:13,707 --> 00:35:17,200
lot of people to have nots and
and having the sense of having

693
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,900
an opportunity to do something
bigger or different than in

694
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:23,100
turn, help your family back home
is something we have inherently

695
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:26,100
in our culture.
You know, I'm almost a quarter

696
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:29,900
of the growth GDP that is
submitted by the It's from

697
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,200
overseas, contract workers
probably even more than maybe

698
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,300
maybe 40%.
So, being Filipino and the

699
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:39,200
Philippine experience.
Now, for me, as, as a leader in

700
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,700
the community, hasn't been
amazing because I'm just, you

701
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,300
know, I'm just a guy working on
my own Niche and being the best.

702
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:51,100
I can be in the World of Sport
and even though I'm not an

703
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:54,700
athlete or a head coach, which
would usually Garner, a lot of

704
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:58,900
the accolades and the awareness
of for me to be so to speak a

705
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:00,500
support.
Tough guy.

706
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:05,700
But then being able to make sure
that I continue to Mentor those

707
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:09,500
who see me in the platform that
I'm in whether it had to do with

708
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,400
the NBA or whether it has to do
with my nonprofits or has to do

709
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,100
with with the community.
From gratitude from Baku,

710
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:21,400
Baywatch was on Pub house.
I think I am and will forever be

711
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,800
an older brother to everyone in
the community Filipino community

712
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,300
and that word is kuya and I
think I am an older brother.

713
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,000
I'm acquia.
Ooh, both my younger sister and

714
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,100
my younger brother, but I've
also now become the kuya of an

715
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:40,500
entire really generation of
Filipinos who are either a in

716
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:44,500
the health, wellness and
performance space, or be are in

717
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,000
the personal growth world or
want to be in the personal

718
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,800
growth world, or, or want to
being content creation and

719
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,700
stuff.
And even though I'm like,

720
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,400
consider myself an influencer,
by any means, what I influence

721
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,200
is, is the impact and the, and
the ability to Mentor people

722
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,400
because at any given point in,
Time whether your Filipino or

723
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,400
not.
But if you come from an

724
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,100
immigrant background and you
have a story that you can tell

725
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,900
him, but you're also clear with
your purpose and your dream, I

726
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,500
will help you.
I'll answer your diem right back

727
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,900
on your LinkedIn question.
I think this is reason why

728
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,900
grasshopper project exists and
this is my first nonprofit which

729
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,800
started in 2013 initially and
became a full nonprofit in 2018

730
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:25,400
was to really bring the ability
of true mentorship for those

731
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,800
that don't have mentors.
You know, initially I started in

732
00:37:28,808 --> 00:37:30,700
the house.
Well - and performance space.

733
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,000
But now it's like, I'm getting
people who are in the tech

734
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,300
world.
I'm getting people in the

735
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:38,000
content creation even though I'm
really not expert at these.

736
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,600
And if it's not me then at least
the beautiful thing now is now I

737
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,600
have a whole community of what I
call gurus.

738
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:45,500
That's an enough that my
expertise.

739
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,300
I can find somebody who's an
expert, then maybe they can

740
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:50,000
mentor you and my network has
gone.

741
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,200
So big.
Now that literally any kid that

742
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,900
has a dream can have a question
and I probably know one person

743
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,300
that can support him or her.
I think it's all about.

744
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,600
It's about giving, you know, and
I think, I always think

745
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,100
everything is energy and I think
people live in this fixed

746
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:10,000
mindset where it's, there's this
finite amount of energy that I

747
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,700
have.
And I have to just focus on

748
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:15,200
myself forces, people like
yourself who live in this

749
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,800
virtuous cycle mentality where
it's, you know, you you get what

750
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,500
you give and if you take an
altruistic Viewpoint, it's just

751
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,700
more Goods, going back to the
positive feelings that you get

752
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:29,900
from serving others, and it
sounds like that's It's kind of

753
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:32,600
rooted in your DNA's as a
Filipino.

754
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:35,000
What you were saying earlier,
and I think we that's something

755
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,200
we definitely need a lot more of
today than in this hyper

756
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,700
capitalist Society.
We live in an America.

757
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,300
I think we need to have more
people from who do realize the

758
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:46,400
benefits of of service and you
know, you mentioned the one

759
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,300
towards a couple times which was
a personal growth and obviously

760
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,100
the leader in that field of
personal growth is Mindvalley CH

761
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:58,700
which, you know, both you and I
are members of this community

762
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:03,300
and I'd love to hear more about
your experience with Mindvalley

763
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:05,700
kind of what it's meant for you.
What you're doing with

764
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:09,900
Mindvalley?
Yeah, I began my journey in mind

765
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,100
Valley through a fost almost 10
years ago.

766
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,100
So it's funny going to cut out
the Hannah this year, it would

767
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:19,000
be my 10th year anniversary of
being part of the mine value,

768
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,200
universe speak.
And at that time, I was on my

769
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,200
4-Hour, workweek situation
traveling on the world teaching

770
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,100
mentoring and And for me, it was
interesting because it was one

771
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:34,100
of those almost 2013 was the
greatest year of my life but

772
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,800
also one of the one of the
saddest tears if a sadist, but

773
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,600
also the greatest year of my
life, so much less than two that

774
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,800
year.
I had already just come from

775
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,100
burning man and then went to a
Fest and that happened because

776
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,400
almost a year ago in December of
2012.

777
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,600
I was in Playa del Carmen and
I've met a friend at the hostel

778
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,500
and I met this girl and there's
a group of us and met each other

779
00:39:57,500 --> 00:39:59,900
and we went out salsa dancing
and then the One of the next

780
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:04,000
morning's she was packed up and
leaving she goes I I'm going to

781
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,600
this I don't know conference
event something I'm going to

782
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,100
this thing where called
awesomeness Fest.

783
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,100
She is master of fact you should
need to apply because you pretty

784
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,300
awesome.
I was like really okay and I

785
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:18,500
looked at it I was like wow this
is me written all over.

786
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,000
I mean it was known as awesome
as fast with my best friend and

787
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,200
I was like, I'm awesome.
I'm going to the same.

788
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000
Let's go.
And she goes well you can't just

789
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,200
do that.
You kind of supply.

790
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,600
By and by July, she said, she
called me, she gets the websites

791
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,400
up, get your application now.
And it took me like two, three

792
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,100
months for that application to
go through from, I had leader

793
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:43,100
interview calls, some most
crazy.

794
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,300
And when I got accepted, I felt
like, okay cool.

795
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,300
But, you know, I was one of 250
300 people.

796
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:52,800
There it was only the second
year that a Fest was open to the

797
00:40:52,808 --> 00:40:56,700
public, but it changed my life.
I will always be grateful to my

798
00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:00,300
in Valley and you know and
vision for Putting this together

799
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,500
through his own lowliness
meeting and belonging and

800
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,000
Community.
To create this whole community

801
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:10,700
of wacky people who want to
change the world and pushing my

802
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,300
knee forward.
And, you know, if this was one

803
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:15,200
of the greatest things that
because the people I've met

804
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,600
there, as I found my tribe, it's
funny to say that you think that

805
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,700
those people in high school or,
you know, for me and my high

806
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:24,200
school friends are my friends
forever, and I thought that was

807
00:41:24,207 --> 00:41:26,200
it.
I would never meet anybody else.

808
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,000
That would be my forever
friends.

809
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,700
And when I I went to afis and
2013, I found another group that

810
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,300
would be my forever friends,
which included, Nita Busan, and

811
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,400
Bancroft, and a whole bunch of
other people and being able to

812
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,600
see mine Valley, grow to what it
is now and even seeing Vision to

813
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,600
girl who he is now.
So I just just to be part of

814
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,100
that from a community standpoint
but also from a gross and it's

815
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:54,400
been a blessing and I will
forever be grateful to be part

816
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,600
of the tribe.
Yeah, it's been, it's been

817
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,000
nothing short of transformative
for me as well.

818
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,300
And Like I said before, it's the
three C's, it's the content, the

819
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:06,000
community and the connection.
I just I can't think of another

820
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,100
platform out there that that
even comes close and just in

821
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,900
terms of the breakthroughs I'm
experiencing in terms of just

822
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,300
collaborations, it's Anna and it
just feels like, it's just the

823
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:18,900
beginning, I'm pretty new to it.
I'm not, I don't have my 10-year

824
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:22,300
anniversary or anything like
that, but I thought you to it in

825
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,900
the year or two, that I've been
a part of this community.

826
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,500
I can see the growth.
It's like I'm kind of looking at

827
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:29,500
the trend lines.
It's Edible.

828
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,900
And the beauty is that with
things like mine Val University

829
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,100
this year we might be bringing
our kids as well and so I doing

830
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:37,900
it.
Get them started on that.

831
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,700
Trajectory at that early age
it'll be amazing to see kind of

832
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:44,800
holy extent as well.
So my oldest is 19.

833
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,800
My middle one is 15.
And that I have an

834
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,900
eight-year-old, you know, ice.
I ask that is because and then

835
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:52,900
and I told you earlier, I
started my world and meditation

836
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:55,600
at the age of seven star
teaching at 12 and Silva method

837
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,600
came to my life.
Yes.

838
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,500
Yeah, you know it's funny
because it came to visit Life

839
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:01,700
when he was bright and so we
did.

840
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:03,400
You did you did the book hit you
on the head?

841
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Also, or the?
He tells the story about how

842
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,100
like he was climbing up a
bookshelf in the book, hit him

843
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:09,700
on the head.
I don't know if you think you

844
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:13,200
add all that.
Mine wasn't a newspaper ad in

845
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,000
the Manila.
Bulletin like a 1/8 ad that

846
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,300
says, and get better grades and
increase your brainpower.

847
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:24,000
And it really is a, it was for
me, the beginning of the other

848
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,400
standing of how to use your mind
body and spirit to the Most

849
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,700
optimal level 100%.
I mean Silva method that could

850
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:35,900
that could be a whole other kind
of simple repetition Silva

851
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:39,400
method is just like you said,
it's the brain-body connection.

852
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,000
We're in this Western World.
I think we sometimes take too

853
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,600
much of that pills for an ill
approach and we try to do

854
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,900
surgery, we just need to look
inside ourselves.

855
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,600
You know, we just need to sit
with ourselves and get into

856
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,600
those Alpha brainwaves States or
Theta or gamma, you know, it's

857
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,700
just things like.
So a method are just one of the

858
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,800
many things that you know, can
can help us.

859
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Sheep that the name of this
podcast is untether your life

860
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,400
and that's about, you know,
Breaking Free of what we call

861
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,100
templates.
You know, whether that's

862
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,200
definitions of success or that's
how to manage an illness or how

863
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,300
to manage your career or
relationships.

864
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:16,600
Whatever, just ripping up those
templates and really forging

865
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,300
your own path and charging
ahead.

866
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,000
And I think like I said you I
think have done this in Spades

867
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,800
in your life, I guess.
Two questions.

868
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,500
One is, you know, what is that
meant for you, untethering, your

869
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,000
life.
And secondly, how would you tell

870
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,900
somebody listening out there?
How can they untether their

871
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:33,900
life?
I think being able to harness

872
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:37,700
the power of gratitude to
provide the energy.

873
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:41,600
That's necessary for me to
impact as many people.

874
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,900
As I can on a daily basis has
driven me to make sure that I

875
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:49,600
live an untethered life.
Have no other choice either.

876
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,700
I stay in this lane or I do this
and I choose to do this.

877
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:55,700
That's just who I am.
And I've that Curiosity and I've

878
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:58,800
had since a little boy, has made
me that much of this may have my

879
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,100
mother.
I just can't understand why I

880
00:45:01,107 --> 00:45:04,000
don't have a cookie cutter life,
which was going to happen.

881
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,400
And so, what I always tell those
that, I Mentor or a coach, or

882
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,800
people ask questions, how they
can then harness their own

883
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,400
energies as well, to then find
their passions and then live.

884
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,000
Their purpose is first and
foremost, answer the question of

885
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,800
why.
Answer the question, what drives

886
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,100
that, why?
And by doing that, you can have

887
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,300
more focus and a direction of
work to go because sometimes you

888
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,700
just going to get lost and I
think, One of the first things,

889
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:33,600
when even people ask me is like,
hey, can you help me meditate

890
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,400
and I asked them, what do you
need it for?

891
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:37,700
And I'm just being honest like
why?

892
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:40,100
And when they have a more solid,
why?

893
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,800
Then I can give them the answer
or even when those who try to

894
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,600
ask me if I can mentor them.
And I asked them why what is it

895
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,100
that I do that inspires you to
want to do what I do, right.

896
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I want to be in sports, but why
do you want to be in sports?

897
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,900
And I think it's important going
back to uh Simon sinek ton of

898
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,000
thought, process of Sir?
Why?

899
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:03,600
And when you can answer that,
then it's easier for anyone who

900
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,200
is a mentor, who's a coach,
who's a therapist or anyone

901
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,500
that's supporting you, whether
at the low level at the highest

902
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:11,300
level and Sport can help you in
the right way.

903
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,600
So Erwin, if people are
interested in learning more

904
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,200
about what you're doing, whether
it's the Gratitude gang or the

905
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,800
work you're doing with the New
York Knicks or just any of your

906
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,600
numerous insights that you have
about gratitude and so much

907
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,400
more.
How can they either get a hold

908
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,100
of you, or how can they find out
more about you?

909
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,900
You the easiest way is to find
me on Instagram at Irwin.

910
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:36,700
Be evil and say that's my
Instagram, that's my Twitter,

911
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:39,400
that's everything.
That's all my social handles,

912
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,100
that's also my linkedin's but
also you can go to grasshopper.

913
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:47,300
Project.org to learn more about
t mentorship program.

914
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,700
The nonprofit mentorship program
for health wellness and

915
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:53,700
performance.
And gratitude gang dot IO for

916
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:56,000
the nft project.
We're currently still building

917
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,100
the nonprofit part of gratitude
gang on website.

918
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:03,300
My website Irwin Valencia.com,
which is in the process of being

919
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:05,700
rebuilt right now, so it may not
be upset.

920
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:10,100
Like I said, easiest way to do
that is to go to my DMs and

921
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,600
mediums are open and any of my
socials and send me a note and

922
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,200
say hi.
Well, thanks so much Irene.

923
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,700
This was such an amazing
conversation.

924
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:19,700
We touched on so much and truly
a blessing to be connected with

925
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,500
you.
And have you impart some of your

926
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:23,800
wisdoms on gratitude and so much
more.

927
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,600
So thanks again, no worries.
Nikhil, thank you very much for

928
00:47:26,607 --> 00:47:31,600
having me.
Thanks so much for listening and

929
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,700
I hope you enjoyed that episode
four more of these types of

930
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:36,900
conversations.
Please visit us at untether,

931
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:40,500
your life that Co you can also
find us on Instagram and

932
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:44,000
untether your life, as well as
on Apple Spotify and other

933
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,500
platforms by searching for
untether, your life.

934
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,400
And if you did enjoy this
episode, please leave us a

935
00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:52,200
review or share it with someone
who might also benefit.

936
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,200
Thanks.
And until the next time we meet

937
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:31,600
stay untethered.
Thanks so much for listening and

938
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,700
I hope you enjoyed that episode
four more of these types of

939
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:36,900
conversations.
Please visit us at untether,

940
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:40,500
your life that Co you can also
find us on Instagram and

941
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:44,000
untether your life, as well as
on Apple Spotify and other

942
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,500
platforms by searching for
untether, your life.

943
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,400
And if you did enjoy this
episode, please leave us a

944
00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:52,200
review or share it with someone
who might also benefit.

945
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,200
Thanks.
And until the next time we meet

946
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,400
stay untethered.