65: Niraj Naik, Tapping Into Your "Inner Pharmacy" via SOMA Breath - Breathwork, Dance, Ayurveda, Community, and More (Encore Episode)

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How did a Tony Robbins event in
2007 Rouse, A jaded pharmacist

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to dive deep into the rabbit
hole of the powers of nutrition,

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meditation and other forms of
biohacking, leading to

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collaboration with Wimhoff Risk
appear and many other luminaries

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in the field?
How can reciting simple

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affirmations with absolute
conviction combined with

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exposure to sauna put us into
deep alpha brain wave states to

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help us leverage our intuition
and heighten our problem solving

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abilities?
And what is Soma Breath under?

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The one time rave DJ Slash,
community pharmacist from the UK

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combined breath work, ecstatic
dance, ayurveda and

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groundbreaking science to launch
a worldwide movement with

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thousands of followers that
helps us tap into our inner

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pharmacy to fight all sort of
colitis and other chronic

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ailments.
Stay tuned as we touch on these

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and many other topics on this
week's episode of Untether Your

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Life.
Welcome to Untether Your Life, a

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show that empowers you to own
your own health and break free

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of templates for managing
physical and mental Wellness,

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and looks at key issues
impacting the South Asian

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diaspora.
I am your host, Nikhil Torsakar,

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and I'm passionate about the
power of conversation to

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catalyze change.
This week features an encore

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episode of our discussion with
Neeraj Nayak, founder of Soma

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Breath.
Neeraj could be seen as the

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poster boy for the themes of
Untether Your life, owning your

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health with alternatives to
medication and surgery, tapping

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into ancient Eastern wisdom
traditions, and ripping up

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templates for success handed to
us as members of the South Asian

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diaspora, also known as the
Renegade Pharmacist, Newridge is

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a certified UK pharmacist turned
holistic Wellness, brain

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training and breath work expert.
He is one of the world's most

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sought after spiritual ceremony
facilitators and leads breath

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work workshops around the world.
His journey started in the midst

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of a burnout in his corporate
career when he found himself

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bedridden with chronic illness
for more than a year.

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Healing himself using breath
work techniques and dietary

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adjustments, Neeraj felt
motivated to share his knowledge

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with others.
Today, Neerage runs a global

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breath work community and trains
thousands of breath work experts

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through his Soma breath
framework, which is also taught

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at numerous Wellness centers in
the US, Europe and Asia.

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And with that, let's get
untethered.

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So Neerage, Truly, truly, this
is a blessing.

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You're one of the most
fascination people I've met in

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terms of your story, just in
terms of the change that you're

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affecting in the world, and
you're the real deal.

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So really glad to have you on
the show.

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Pleasure to be here brother.
So why don't you go ahead if you

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can tell us a little bit more
about your background, sort of

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what led you from your days as a
DJ in the UK to now being one of

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the most sought after breath
gurus, I guess.

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Yeah.
So I think I'm like you right

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Second generation?
Yeah, parents came over to

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England for you as America,
right?

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So they came over.
They got kicked out of Idi Amin

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by Idi Amin out of Uganda.
It was a super hard struggle for

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them.
At one point they were like

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living in like tiny one bedroom
apartment with two other

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families.
And that was like my first year

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of my life, you know, act then
like the toilets were outside

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and it was communal, the showers
and everything in the street.

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So it was a whole different
world.

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And this is just like. 45 years
ago, right?

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So it was a whole different
world.

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Like, we've got it so good right
now, but my parents really

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struggled.
Yeah, the UK was very different

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back then.
I mean, now we have South Asian

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Prime Minister.
It's a very different world.

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Yeah.
So they really had to work on My

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dad, like, you know, studied
really hard.

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My mom trained to be a doctor in
India, but she had me and then

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she was so busy that she
basically.

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She didn't manage to finish the
exams, so she didn't become a

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fully qualified Dr. but she kind
of sacrificed her career for us.

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But my dad went full power.
I hardly ever saw him, you know,

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because he was so busy not
working.

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So actually I didn't really get
to know like my dad very well.

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But my mom, I was definitely
more bonded to it.

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They were very academic and you
know, so because of security,

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right?
And the fact they're so drilled

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into the consciousness of
Indians struggling in a very

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white centric population, sure
to get noticed, to be, you know,

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to get actually a decent career,
that was instilled into me.

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It was this extreme hard work
ethic.

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But also you either become a
pharmacist, a doctor or lawyer,

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accountant, you know, something
like that.

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Or a failure.
That's the.

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Yeah, that's the default, right?
Yeah, Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, like the thing was.
My family, friends circle and

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our relatives were very
successful Indians who worked

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really hard.
The doctors or pharmacists were

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big pharmacy chains.
You know, Indians are generally

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pretty good at business.
The good right is especially and

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so some of them have built, you
know, empires.

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So I was groomed to follow in
one of my uncle's footsteps to

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become a pharmacist and, you
know, take over a chain one one

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day.
Eventually it was if.

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I was into it even a slight bit,
right?

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My life would have been pretty
sweet.

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Everything was laid out for me,
right?

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So my parents were blown away
when I started to get into being

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a DJ and making music and not
wanting to do anything like

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that.
What happened was like, so I

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still followed partly by I was
like, okay, I'll get the degree

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for security.
You know, so I have something to

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fall back on.
But in the meantime, I went

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really deep to my passion.
So my dad's fault because he

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gave me my first right?
It was a keyboard, 14 years old.

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And that's what got me like
turned on to music and making

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music and the electronic scene
was like immersion back then.

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This is like 990-4995.
It was like picking up.

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So I got really hooked into this
and started.

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Link keyboards up and do little
gigs or raves at school for fun.

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Where did you go to school?
Cardiff in Wales in England, So

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I was already a bit of a rebel
and you know, my parents are

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like, you can do what you want
as long as you get your degree.

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And then that turned into
actually then a bigger rave.

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Like I had a 2000 people club,
we had it for three years, we

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ran this massive rave and I was
playing live to like. 1000

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people, you know, on the main
stage and I was like wow, since

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just dream come true.
But with that scene comes a lot

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of pieing, a lot of hedonism, a
lot of drugs, alcohol and crazy

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wild rock'n'roll lifestyle.
So I lived it to the Max, like

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university days were like
prolific, like how hard I pie,

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you know?
But then this dark music scene

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emerged, and then everything
went dark after 2002 in the

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music scene.
Other drugs going involved, that

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messed it all up.
So one thing led to another I

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had to go back to what I did
fall back on that way was the

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pharmaceutical.
That's why I fell back on,

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because I lost this event and I
crashed and burned and suddenly

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I'm in this cubicle as it
promises, dishing out pills.

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And it was like, what has
happened to my life?

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It was like massive come down,
the biggest come down ever.

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Yeah, like, I was just like mad
depressed for years.

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For seven years I worked as a
community pharmacist, so I had a

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major breakdown and my friend
took me to a Tony Robbins event.

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Yeah, kicking and screaming.
Because I didn't.

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He bought the ticket.
But that turned out to be the

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best thing I ever did.
Like that.

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The event was incredible.
Like Massive, they do The

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Walking on hardcore.
All of that.

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But there's this guy.
He's got, like, some long name

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Joseph McKellen.
He did this one talk on health,

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like all the bio hacks back
then, right?

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So it was the first time I heard
anyone talk about diet,

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nutrition, breathing, even
meditation, water, spirulina,

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all this stuff.
I was like, what doesn't it

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like?
Never heard of this.

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You know the reason the mid two.
When was this?

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When was this two?
1007 Okay, yeah.

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So it was the first time I heard
all of this.

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So I was like, well here's an
idea.

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I have a pharmacy full of sick
patients I'm going to put Taylor

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on as a test.
I'll find out pretty quick if

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he's full of shit.
So I came up with this really

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simple system because at first
it's hard to give patients time,

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right?
Like you only have a few minutes

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for the patient, you're so busy.
So I'm forced myself to make

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time, even if I fell behind on
other bits of the work, to spend

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at least 5 minutes over the
patient.

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And in that time, I basically
came up with a system, a healthy

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shopping system.
And I've given an analogy to the

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patient.
I'll be like, look, you're on

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all these drugs, right?
Do you really want to be taking

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them?
Most people will be like, no,

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course not.
I'm getting all these side

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effects and I'll be like, well,
just imagine you are like a

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super efficient bioengine,
right?

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And just like a normal engine,
like have you ever put the wrong

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fuel into your engine?
Like a diesel instead of petrol?

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Right.
These are, these are one, most

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people have done that once,
right?

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So they're like, right.
So what's that feel like?

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What happens and allow, you
know, the car breaks down or you

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have to clean it out.
So imagine that you have been

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putting the wrong fuel into a
super efficient bioengine for

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this time simply because you
didn't know what the right fuel

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was.
And and this is what's happened

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to you, you're basically
breaking down now, right.

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And that's why you're on these
drugs.

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So imagine if you could put the
right fuel into it.

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So literally it was so simple
because you only needed to make

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a couple of changes.
Most people lived on processed

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foods in the UK, right?
Especially the grocery store

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that I used to work in at.
There was a massive grocery

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chain like it's owned by
Walmart.

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So I basically started to get
people just to eat normal food.

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It's like, what is the no
factory diet, right?

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I said this is the fuel, real
food.

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He what you love, but learn how
to make it yourself.

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I'd also bring in some healthy
green juice recipes just so they

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can get like, the nutrients and
hydration.

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Right.
So just from that I started to

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get testimonials.
I used to get like the doctors

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ringing me up going, what are
you doing?

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At first I was like a bit
worried like I'm going to get in

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trouble right?
But you know, congratulate me.

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They're like keep going, this is
amazing.

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So that eventually led me to get
promoted at head office and.

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One of the big this same
supermarket chain and they gave

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you the opportunity to create a
healthy shopping list service on

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their website where patients
could get the healthy shopping

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list delivered to them.
They'd have like a way to select

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who they want and it'll be like
really the main problem I wanted

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to try and work with versus type
2 diabetes and it means they're

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to make problems you can easily
solve through just diet.

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And it's some of the most common
problems in a pharmacy is.

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People with type 2 diabetes, and
you solve those two issues, you

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do a big impact in the world,
right?

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So it could have been amazing.
But then six months into this

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project and then they decided
they don't want to do this

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anymore, right?
Boom.

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I just crashed.
I couldn't believe it.

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Like, I was so disappointed.
I was like, there is no God.

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It's so healthy.
Wow.

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Like this is like.
Insane.

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Like why would they lock this?
Why would they not want this

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out, This information?
It could help so many people.

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I have the proof, I have the
evidence.

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Why are we not scanning this?
And then the symptoms have also

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quiets kicked in at the same
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So I started bleeding from my
backside, which eventually

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turned into bleeding 4050 times
a day.

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You know, I'm spending more time
in the toilet.

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I got so sick.
So you go to a console and you

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know you for a checkup and this.
One time I remember like so this

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console and that she looked
really, really miserable with

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her life.
Like she did not want to do her

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job right because I also said
what about stress, you know, So

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I said what about diet?
I saw this in the pharmacy,

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people getting sick and better
if you change their diet.

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Is there any diet that I could
try?

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And I was so ill and tired.
I was just because of all the

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people around me or the doctors,
so worried family, they.

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Kind of told me that the only
thing you can do for this

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incurable disease is keep taking
the pills, right?

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So she basically said to me like
you have two choices.

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You either have your coat or
removed, or you can try it being

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like a Guinea pig or something.
Drunk.

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Yeah, yeah.
So I was like, screw this, I

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already had my GP telling me
that start wearing a nappy.

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Otherwise you're not going to go
out because you're going to be

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some quality of life.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I'm 32 years old or
something, so I'm like, you

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know, I'm never going to get
laid again.

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That's.
Right.

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So it doesn't like that's not a
good look, yeah.

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Couldn't even work.
I couldn't even get a job.

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So it was really, really the
dark night of the soul.

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And so I went away and I was
like, I'm not going to do any of

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those.
I need to find another way and

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remember.
Going super inward at this

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moment and just praying for
help, you know, I was like, it

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was like I gave up on God and
then suddenly turned to God in

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this moment.
And they say God sounds a gift

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of desperation, right?
Right.

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Literally in the most desperate
moments is usually when God

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appears.
And this has happened to me, the

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form of actually a couple of
things, like first thing my

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uncle.
Telling me about this book, The

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Power of the Soupontious Mind by
Doctor Joseph Murphy.

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One of the best books I've ever
read on the power of this and

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which is mine using managers and
things.

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And what he did was he's like a
Christian Scientist or

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something, but he's also in the
different forms.

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And he was in the pharmacist.
So this was in the nine 40s.

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And he wrote this book.
And he brought both wisdoms

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together.
So he was a Christian Scientist

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and an aiabetic physician and a
pharmacist.

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Very similar to me in a weird
way, Yeah.

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Kindred spirit, Yeah, yeah.
So he talks about this process

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of scientific prayers and how
you can speak to your

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unconscious mind in a certain
brain wave state which is the

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prayer and that's what churches
do.

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You go into a church and those
acoustics and then ambiance with

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the candle lights puts you into
brain with and alpha brave with

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sake so you can speak to God
which is the God within is your

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unconscious mind right all the.
The houses of worship are very

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similar like this and I am very
left brain analytical and this

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was a little woo, but I remember
we've been talking about this

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sort of stuff and actually Tony
Robbins also had mentioned in

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other things I read about Doctor
Joseph Murphy, so I was okay.

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I'm going to try this.
So I went down that path and

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decided to come up with my own
system of scientific prayers

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using certain affirmations.
The affirmation I used was.

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I'm whole, perfect, strong,
loving, harmonious and happy

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said with absolute conviction
right here.

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They ordered state like an alpha
brain wave state.

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So what I found was really
soothing was going into sauna,

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right?
And the heat shock of the sauna

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80 to 9 degrees centigrade.
Sauna actually stimulates

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neurogenesis and actually
stimulates the growth in your

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brain cells.
Also increases blood flow

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dramatically to the brain.
This is stuff I figured out

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later on.
I didn't know this at the time.

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It also puts you into alpha
brain with state right in that

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low alpha brain with meditative
state.

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And what I was doing was this
breathing technique because

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someone else came to the rescue,
saw me on the cananda yoga

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teacher who has a traditional
yoga association.

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Amazing lady, dear friend and
family and she told me the

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foundation of Pranayama and are
you better and.

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Yoga, traditional yoga.
And she said to me, look, you

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got gift here, she can reverse
this, you'll be amazing role

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model to other people.
So that spurred me on.

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They gave me hope.
And she said, look, I can teach

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you the foundations of these
things, but you got to apply it

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and see how it goes and keep the
faith.

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And So what I did was I took the
breathing techniques from

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probably our extended
exhalations, rhythmic breathing,

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charming old.
So I do live in the sauna.

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Extended exhalations where you
breathe out twice the time as

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you're greeting in a rhythm, and
then just praying, praying with

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the conviction, using the
affirmation to visualize

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yourself.
Healthy and happy, right?

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So boom, what happens?
That then opens up a huge like

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rabbit hole like portal I'd say.
Boom.

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At this time you were still
suffering with the ulcerative

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colitis then.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm still bleeding.

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But what happened was I started
to get this willpower to really

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go deep into these subjects
because I got such relief from

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the simple breathing technique.
I started to study finding I'm

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like a crazy person, right?
And I went and studied Iveta and

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discovered I was eating totally
the wrong diet because your

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Ivetic system.
Basically tells you that we have

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buyer individuality, There's no
one-size-fits-all diet.

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Yeah.
And those shows, right, The

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different personalized elements,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because I turned to veganism
because that was the thing that

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was promoted all over the
Internet as being the healthy

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thing and also the green juices
that Tony Robbins was prevented.

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I was drinking loads of that.
That was making it so much

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worse.
When you have also quiet, it's a

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batter pizza disturbance.
That's my daughter type is

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batter pieces.
There's a disturbance in that.

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So actually, if you eat raw
vegan foods, it can make you

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very ungrounded.
Waste away and it can cause a

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lot of gas and bloating.
So you need actually batter.

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People need to get grounded,
more warm, nourishing Whole

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Foods, even meats, okay and
things like ghee to nourish it

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up.
And through the I of X's have

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also discovered something called
colostrum, which for us milk of

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a cow.
And actually the reason cows are

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considered holy in India is
because of colostrum, the first

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milk.
So what that means is when

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humans are born, right, the
first milk you consume is a

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super potent, super rich cream
milk.

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It's not the same as normal milk
and it's got very little lactose

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content, if any.
Yeah.

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And it actually is full of
growth factors and mean factors

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and it stimulates the growth.
Of cells rapidly in the gut

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lining, and that's what actually
first improves your immune

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system, right?
Carries on it passes on immunity

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right from mother to child.
What it also does is it seals

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the gut lining so you can
actually digest proper food

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right when you get older.
Now Bovine colossum cows

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colossum has the same
translation into humans.

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It's what the cows need is
essential.

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The calf needs it.
But the cow produces so much of

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it like many times more right
than what the calf needs.

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And most of that clots thrown
away.

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And if the cow isn't milked for
that clots and it gets into

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paint.
So actually the caution in India

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is still used to produce the
holy sweets and the desserts and

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the foods made.
Barfy and stuff like that.

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Or yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of supplements out

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there where they freeze dietary
clostrum for use in humans and

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there's incredible research
behind it.

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So especially for things
honestly quiet.

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So I was like, wow, I'm going to
get this stuff.

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So I got it.
And that combined with a change

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in my eyebetic Lysol going
towards a more like low carb

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paleo diet, bone broths, things
like that and these breathing

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techniques.
And it's just a change in

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mindset and look at the world
with optimism and hope.

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I boom within a few months back
to full health.

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I blew everyone's mind way.
Music was a huge part.

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Going back to being creative and
studying music again and

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learning how to create brain
wave and train with music.

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And like relaxing music
basically helps all the brain

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waves in a positive way and also
combining breathing with the

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music so.
Right.

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Eventually, like I created a
website to share all my

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information
therenegadepharmacist.com and my

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first business I created because
I couldn't go back to my

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pharmacy job, Community pharmacy
I.

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Just really needed a way out.
I read The Four Hour Work Week

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and Tim Ferriss, right?
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, the best business
model ever that opened my own

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computer.
So I studied like crazy to fix

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to create my own first business.
And actually that turned into

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four minute workweek because I
started to sell ironically the

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Clostrum.
That healed me.

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The it's like burning up content
on YouTube, just promoting it

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for free.
And the supplier got in touch

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and told me you're doing such a
good job of bringing my

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clostrum, you want to represent
the brand.

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So that's what happened and now
I'm getting like a 4 minute

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workweek and I created music
therapy business where I just

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created therapeutic music and
licensed it out to people.

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So.
That led to, you know,

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eventually Marissa Pierre
becoming a good friend.

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She started using my music.
Then I started traveling around

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the world and I met Wimhoff and
I made the soundtrack to the

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Wimhoff method.
Those powers heating centers

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were using my music around the
world, so it just went into a

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crazy kind of snowball that
sounds like, yeah.

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And then I moved to my dream
location.

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We've been living there on and
off the last seven years now, I

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mean Ibiza in Spain.
So it's been like an amazing

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transformation, like
unbelievable.

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Like if you were to imagine who
I was, like when I was on the

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toilet, you know?
Yeah, I mean, it's like 9 day

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difference, you know?
Yeah.

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No, I mean you're working on a
book or anything like that or

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some working.
Through.

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Yeah, I think because I really
think that going back to what I

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was saying about the sort of the
mission of this podcast is it's

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about I think it's South Asians.
We are typically on this path

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and we're given these templates
like you were told that you

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could basically write your
ticket if you followed the

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straight and narrow path with
going into pharmacy.

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And then you know what ends up
happening is people go down

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these paths and they develop a
lot of anxiety.

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They neglect their own health.
They're not interested in what

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they're doing.
They're nowhere near the state

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of flow that's really required
in order to achieve that

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fulfillment.
And so, I mean, that's really

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what the purpose of this podcast
is, is to hear those stories and

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give people who are in this bad
programming and wedded to these

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templates that have been foisted
on them.

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And so I think that's why I
think your story is just so

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incredible, you know, to go from
being like kind of in this

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cookie cutter profession to
leading these really

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transformative experiences all
over the world, so.

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I had to prove.
All of the Indian doctors and

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pharmacists, so, you know, bless
them, there are many people.

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I had to prove them wrong as
well.

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So my mom always said to me, you
know, if you study really hard,

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you can grow up and go to
Cambridge University, right.

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And ironically, they're studying
us now.

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So yeah, you know having that
like sample of approval on us as

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and our techniques, some of
techniques to an Indian

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community is like.
Yeah, that's how you win.

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That's the real win for sure.
No, my hat's off to you on that.

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I mean I think I want to go a
little bit further into one of

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the terms that you use because I
really think the concept of 1

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size fits all is dangerous
regardless of what you're

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talking about, right.
And so healthcare for sure, I

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00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:50,330
mean it is not a
one-size-fits-all model.

454
00:24:50,330 --> 00:24:54,090
It is not a as they say pill for
an ill you know that's same with

455
00:24:54,090 --> 00:24:55,250
us.
I mean with our stem cell

456
00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:59,570
business is that we're trying to
really get healing on an end to

457
00:24:59,570 --> 00:25:02,890
end basis not just like I have
high blood pressure, let me take

458
00:25:02,890 --> 00:25:07,050
this medication and then I'm
going to you know develop ulcers

459
00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:09,690
or I'm you know what I mean.
So it's not this whack A mole

460
00:25:09,690 --> 00:25:12,050
type thing.
What I found really interesting

461
00:25:12,290 --> 00:25:17,010
with your approach is your
conceptualizing Soma breath as

462
00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:20,330
it's like the inner pharmacy.
And I don't remember which

463
00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:23,810
podcast it was on, but you were
talking about how, you know,

464
00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:27,910
it's just like if you go into a
pharmacy, you wouldn't take

465
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:31,110
Advil for an ulcer or you
wouldn't take Parkinson's

466
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:33,990
medication for, you know, a
headache type type of thing,

467
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:36,190
right?
There's got to be more targeted.

468
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:39,630
So tell me a little bit more
about how that applied the inner

469
00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:43,430
pharmacy model to breath work.
Maybe if you can touch on a

470
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:46,870
couple different use cases in
terms of like how breath works,

471
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:50,190
specific types of breath work,
like how that can help certain

472
00:25:50,190 --> 00:25:51,630
conditions.
Yeah.

473
00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:55,630
So actually the quote you're
talking about is Doctor B.

474
00:25:55,630 --> 00:25:58,630
And Hector, who's one of the top
doctors in India, is one of like

475
00:25:58,630 --> 00:26:02,310
the highest awards he can get.
He's a super renegade Dr. Like,

476
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:04,830
he's like kindred spirits,
right?

477
00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:09,190
But he says there's a pill for
every were ill.

478
00:26:10,030 --> 00:26:13,070
There's also an ill following
every pill, right?

479
00:26:13,670 --> 00:26:15,900
These days is.
Drug companies that come up with

480
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:19,700
pills almost everything, right?
Because like how many like new

481
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:23,300
psychiatric drugs out there, you
know coming out all the time and

482
00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:26,220
they manufacturing symptoms,
right?

483
00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:29,260
To prescribe drugs to what I
find funny is these drug

484
00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:32,380
commercials a lot of times, like
the listing of the side effects

485
00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:35,260
are usually longer than the
actual ad, you know, and it's

486
00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:38,740
always read in this like auction
frenetic style paste.

487
00:26:38,980 --> 00:26:40,060
But yeah, go ahead, you're
saying?

488
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,540
Yeah.
Brought to you by Pfizer.

489
00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:47,410
And since I cannot believe
America like how it's the Truman

490
00:26:47,410 --> 00:26:51,210
Show, the whole country is the
Truman Show, it's phenomenal.

491
00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:55,490
So basically the problem with
drugs is firstly they're not

492
00:26:55,490 --> 00:27:00,010
intelligent.
So all drugs can do is correct

493
00:27:00,370 --> 00:27:04,970
or meddle with chemical changes
in the body right through buying

494
00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:08,530
into receptors or blocking
receptors or changing enzyme

495
00:27:08,530 --> 00:27:12,530
pathways, things like that.
So with that what happens is.

496
00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:16,580
It falls under the massive
problem of reduction in science.

497
00:27:17,180 --> 00:27:21,580
Reduction in science basically
tries to say that human beings

498
00:27:21,580 --> 00:27:25,020
are linear.
We follow like linear graphs,

499
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:29,540
which is so wrong because humans
are so complicated.

500
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,780
We are we're irrational nor
rational, right?

501
00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:36,340
So there is no linear pattern
for human beings.

502
00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:39,260
And this is the big problem.
We're more all over the place

503
00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:41,220
and there's so many different
factors that influence.

504
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:43,340
Our chemistry in the body, in
our mind.

505
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:46,100
So I'll give you an example.
Is blood pressure, right?

506
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,260
So what do you think was
Gandhi's blood pressure?

507
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,460
Gandhi's blood pressure?
I would imagine.

508
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:53,100
I would imagine it was pretty
good.

509
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,020
I don't know.
Yeah.

510
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:58,940
Exactly, but it was actually 200
/ 100 his whole life.

511
00:27:59,300 --> 00:27:59,980
Oh.
Really.

512
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,060
And the doctors were so scared
of this.

513
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:04,180
We still trying to give him
drugs, right?

514
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:08,100
And he always refused.
And guess what he died of?

515
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:10,190
Well, he was shot.
Yeah.

516
00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:13,150
Exactly so.
And he was 80, odd years old.

517
00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:17,470
And when they did the postmortem
of his body, really fine, right.

518
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:20,950
He had a healthy body.
Yeah, Despite that one marker

519
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:24,070
being Askew, right?
Yeah, exactly.

520
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:29,110
So here's the thing.
What's normal for someone may

521
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:34,230
not be normal for you, right?
So basically, if you were to

522
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:36,590
take everybody's blood pressure
in the country and plot it.

523
00:28:37,230 --> 00:28:40,110
It's more like a bell shaped
curve like this.

524
00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:45,470
OK, so around the middle falls
around 120 / 80.

525
00:28:45,950 --> 00:28:50,310
The thing is some people are
going to be 25% on this side low

526
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:54,270
and the other side is going to
be 25% high and that's their

527
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:56,470
normal.
If you go for a doctor to check

528
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:59,390
up, they're going to say oh you
don't have the normal blood

529
00:28:59,390 --> 00:29:02,870
pressure and they'll give you a
pill to try and correct you and

530
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:05,710
bring you into the normal right?
Here's the problem.

531
00:29:05,710 --> 00:29:08,840
If.
That's not your normal 120 / 80.

532
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Then you are actually causing
problems and you're going to get

533
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
these false positive readings
every time we do blood pressure

534
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,560
checks and you're going to be
correcting people unnecessarily

535
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,720
and actually causing harm.
And that's why you get side

536
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,680
effects.
So it's like they're trying to

537
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,320
fix one problem, trying to get
one number to sort of fall in

538
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,600
line, but by doing so you're
saying that can cause

539
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,200
disturbances in other parts of
of the body or?

540
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,960
Also, the high blood pressure
may be normal to them healthy

541
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,120
and efficiently at that blood
pressure, right?

542
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960
So if you start making them have
low blood pressure for example,

543
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360
then it could mess up everything
else in the body, right?

544
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Because that's not normal.
So This is why so many side

545
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,080
effects are being created by
drugs.

546
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,240
But also, so much disease that's
manufactured by health checkups.

547
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,720
You think about it, There's only
so many people who are really

548
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,120
sick at any given time, right
until you go for a health

549
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840
checkup.
The health checkup.

550
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Oh, you might have a, you know,
we found a few cancer cells.

551
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,560
There's nothing to worry about.
Yet there's a chance it may turn

552
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,080
into so and so.
And if they say this to you and

553
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,920
you're in the doctor's office?
Like even in the nicest way they

554
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160
could sell you.
This is in your head.

555
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,800
Then it becomes self and
prophecy.

556
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,640
When we're manufacturing cancer
every day, everyone has cancer

557
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,000
cells almost on a daily basis.
If you check up everybody every

558
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840
day, you'll find there's some
cancer cells because it's just

559
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,800
normal part of the growth
process, right?

560
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,680
Whether our body is very good at
getting rid of what it doesn't

561
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,220
need, right?
So I bodies natural innate

562
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:55,540
system.
Guess we know it.

563
00:30:56,020 --> 00:31:00,140
So as soon as you go in for
health checkups these days, you

564
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:01,820
got this wrong with you got this
wrong with you.

565
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:04,540
We got to do this.
Oh, it's a good, better chance

566
00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:07,740
that we, you know, we take this
out to prevent this in the

567
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:09,980
future.
And when you start meddling with

568
00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:13,980
people in this way,
unfortunately this is when you

569
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:16,980
start getting adverse drug
reactions.

570
00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:19,900
Adverse reactions, which is
actually the number three killer

571
00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:22,860
in the world.
Yeah, but it also manufactures a

572
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:26,220
lot of money because of all the
treatments that they can now

573
00:31:26,220 --> 00:31:28,940
offer, right?
And you know, there's a funny

574
00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:32,500
stat.
In India, for example, the poor

575
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:35,100
outlive the rich.
Is that right?

576
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:37,420
Why?
Wasn't aware of that in many.

577
00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:41,100
Places the poor outlive have
more longevity.

578
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,220
Rich.
Why is it they have a simple

579
00:31:43,220 --> 00:31:45,740
diet that they've always been
eating forever?

580
00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:51,640
We don't need all this choice.
Is that unique to India or is

581
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,240
that?
They're actually, if they live

582
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360
like traditionally like they
used to and they haven't gone

583
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,000
fully Westernized in their diet
and lifestyle.

584
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Actually the older generation
are out living the youth like in

585
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240
places like Japan or Kinawa,
right?

586
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,080
So basically the reason why is
because they're not going for

587
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,680
health checkups.
They can't afford private

588
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,160
healthcare.
Yeah.

589
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Look, a lot of doctors do
amazing things, right?

590
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,800
They sure miracles.
They save lives.

591
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,280
The emergency room doctors are
phenomenal.

592
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,640
How they sacrifice their life,
their health, in order to save

593
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,360
somebody's life, Phenomenal.
But there's a lot of doctors,

594
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,400
unfortunately, who have lost
their will, their passion for

595
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,640
what they do.
They don't study anymore, you

596
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,480
know, they stop studying and
keep it up to date with their

597
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,480
latest breakthroughs.
And these are the people who

598
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,570
people are going to.
Advice on actually being

599
00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:51,770
healthy, which means not getting
chronically sick, preventing

600
00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:56,570
disease or, you know, reversing
chronic illness like diabetes

601
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:58,890
and heart disease and all this,
which are all diseases on

602
00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:01,090
lifestyle.
And if they go into a Doctor

603
00:33:01,090 --> 00:33:06,450
Who's unhealthier than them, are
more overweight, more depressed,

604
00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:10,090
and they go into them for
advice, they're going to really

605
00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:13,610
be taken down the wrong path.
This is a problem is really what

606
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:17,130
I'm trying to address.
Is the disease of lifestyle that

607
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,970
are the result of
dissatisfaction with life, lack

608
00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:26,650
of enthusiasm for life, which
then leads to self loathing like

609
00:33:26,650 --> 00:33:31,090
pessimism, cynicism and core
lifestyle choices.

610
00:33:31,090 --> 00:33:32,410
Which stands?
What then?

611
00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:37,210
And bad breathing, which is what
then leads to getting sick

612
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:40,530
right?
And right now, the way we are in

613
00:33:40,530 --> 00:33:43,250
the world, this has gone through
the roof.

614
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:45,910
Sure.
So what I'm training people in

615
00:33:45,910 --> 00:33:51,190
to do is to have amazing tools,
taking the wisdom of the past,

616
00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:56,710
combining it with modern science
to create preventative lifestyle

617
00:33:56,710 --> 00:34:00,830
transformational courses,
programs that fun, engaging,

618
00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:05,710
cool, sticky, addictive, you
know, in a positive way, right,

619
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:07,750
that people wanted to look
forward to doing.

620
00:34:08,110 --> 00:34:11,469
And that's my mission.
And this is trained instructors

621
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:15,370
who are the breath pharmacists.
To go out there and do the big

622
00:34:15,370 --> 00:34:18,810
changes and it's really is
beginning as simply as

623
00:34:19,489 --> 00:34:22,090
controlling the breath, bringing
the breath and the controls, the

624
00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:25,130
number one impact or else
there's the breath.

625
00:34:25,610 --> 00:34:28,050
Yeah.
And I think the other element of

626
00:34:28,050 --> 00:34:30,570
that, beyond the science, beyond
the music, which are all

627
00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:33,489
amazing, I think it's just the
importance of community.

628
00:34:33,489 --> 00:34:36,409
You know, there's that Sanskrit
term Sanga, right?

629
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:40,409
This network of people that you
share these experiences with.

630
00:34:40,850 --> 00:34:43,810
Because what I always say is
there's content and then there's

631
00:34:43,810 --> 00:34:47,090
context, And then when you add
community that really, you know,

632
00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:50,370
brings those two together, these
learnings, these experiences

633
00:34:50,370 --> 00:34:53,210
become so much richer.
You can sit there and read a

634
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:57,370
book all day long, but if you're
sitting there in a circle doing

635
00:34:57,530 --> 00:35:00,970
Kumbaka, these exercises,
Rashaka Prana and all these

636
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:04,770
things, that's going to be
infinitely more valuable than

637
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:07,650
any you know, any book you can
read, or even if you're doing it

638
00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:10,250
on your own.
So I'd love to hear more about

639
00:35:10,330 --> 00:35:13,730
the role that Community has
played in your journey, because

640
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:16,650
it sounds like you went through
some pretty dark times where you

641
00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:19,650
kind of went on the dark night
of the soul and had to make some

642
00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:21,410
hard choices.
Yes, yeah.

643
00:35:21,730 --> 00:35:25,970
Come Unity, that's interesting
for.

644
00:35:25,970 --> 00:35:30,930
Unity in the world, right.
So yeah, So in my situation,

645
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:35,610
coming from an Indian family, we
both know how important the

646
00:35:35,610 --> 00:35:39,270
social.
Cultural environment is for

647
00:35:39,310 --> 00:35:41,630
Indians, right?
Absolutely very collectivist.

648
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:43,790
Great into us as a collective
spirit, right.

649
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:49,070
And my mom for example was an
amazing role model to me in

650
00:35:49,070 --> 00:35:53,870
terms of how social she is, how
generous she is, how caring she

651
00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:55,510
is, how much she does for other
people.

652
00:35:55,750 --> 00:36:00,270
I also had a GPA doctor and as a
dear friend of our family who he

653
00:36:00,270 --> 00:36:02,910
knew everyone in the community,
everyone knew it, you know he

654
00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,150
was so kind and.
Always listen to people's

655
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:07,350
Robins.
And that's part of the the

656
00:36:07,350 --> 00:36:09,790
healing actually is a Doctor Who
just listens.

657
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:12,230
Sure.
So I had all these like role

658
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:15,750
models in our community who were
like the Indian community,

659
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:18,750
Gujarat Samaj.
It's all about doing stuff

660
00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:21,430
together, right?
As a tribe, which is amazing.

661
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:23,470
I loved it.
What unfortunately happened to

662
00:36:23,470 --> 00:36:28,950
me was when I was sick was I was
bashing heads with this

663
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:32,430
community because there's also
dogma when it comes to certain

664
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:34,790
tribes, right?
And you know it can form.

665
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,400
And you know, the problem of
religion is, is the dogma.

666
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,200
And the problem with mainstream
education as well is the dogma.

667
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,600
University can create a lot of
dogmatic indoctrination.

668
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Yeah, and people are rigid.
With their beliefs, and it's

669
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,600
because of dogmatic belief
systems that people hold on to

670
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,670
because.
Really.

671
00:36:56,790 --> 00:37:01,670
And so I got caught like a
mental or philosophical template

672
00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:03,470
that you don't bother updating.
Yeah, yeah.

673
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:08,070
Yeah, like an operating system.
So what happened was I actually

674
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:11,510
had to move away from home.
My friend, the guy who bought me

675
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:14,270
the Tony Robbins ticket, he was
also getting disillusion.

676
00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:17,230
And we both play music together.
He's an amazing guitarist, a

677
00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:21,110
doctor.
So I said to him, look, we got

678
00:37:21,110 --> 00:37:22,950
one chance in here.
I can't work.

679
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:25,870
Work has really strived the
energy for his life, making

680
00:37:25,870 --> 00:37:28,110
music, right So and being
creative.

681
00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:31,830
So he basically invited me to
stay with him.

682
00:37:32,190 --> 00:37:36,550
And what happened was at that
time in order to learn more

683
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:41,350
research, more about the music
and it's kind of mystical music

684
00:37:41,350 --> 00:37:44,230
we're making, right?
What's this start like?

685
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:47,310
Learning about third eye
activation and third eye grip?

686
00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:50,750
All this kind of yogic stuff?
The Buddhist meditation?

687
00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:54,980
I needed to find other people
who thought like me.

688
00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:57,500
So Facebook is evolving at that
time.

689
00:37:58,060 --> 00:38:02,180
And through that I started to
connect with new communities of

690
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,420
people, YouTube.
I started to put my music up on

691
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:05,620
YouTube and I started to get
banned.

692
00:38:06,460 --> 00:38:09,860
And through that I started to
find people who thought like me.

693
00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:14,260
And I was like, wow, that in
itself was so healing, right?

694
00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:16,780
There's a friend of mine, Dan
Lustig.

695
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:20,060
You might know him as well from
when my community is an amazing

696
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:23,090
Israeli.
Therapist who works a lot with

697
00:38:23,410 --> 00:38:26,290
autoimmune, which is what I had,
he says.

698
00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:29,970
Autoimmune are you triggered
like, who did moments

699
00:38:30,530 --> 00:38:33,210
Unexpected.
EU stands for unexpected, says

700
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:35,730
UDIN.
Unexpected.

701
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:41,570
So something that just came
suddenly Shock, dramatic, so

702
00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:49,090
very high emotion associated
with like for me it was worked

703
00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:53,600
so hard to create this project.
Suddenly company doesn't want to

704
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,680
do it.
Get like a kick in the gut.

705
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,760
Yeah.
And then I is isolating.

706
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,720
So it's only you.
So imagine it was just me and

707
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:05,720
the entire corporation for some
of this and no one else

708
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:07,200
understood my problem.
Right.

709
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,960
So it's very isolating.
And then no strategy.

710
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640
The end is no strategy.
There's no way to get out of it.

711
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,640
No strategy part.
A lot of it stands people around

712
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,840
you because if they can't help
you.

713
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,760
And you're on your own what
you're going to do, right.

714
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,120
And there's no tool out there
available.

715
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,080
So I had a typical Rudin moment
that triggered this, which is

716
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200
the case where a lot of people
actually have bought to me if

717
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,320
you go back.
So he said that these Rudin

718
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,400
moments can actually trigger,
Yeah, autoimmune disorders.

719
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Yeah, yeah.
I learned about this site more

720
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,760
recently, but I realized that
this is what happened to me and

721
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,200
I think a lot of people who also
mean have similar issues.

722
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,080
So one of the things that can
cause isolation and.

723
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:51,070
No Strategies is when you're in
these very rigid, dogmatic

724
00:39:51,070 --> 00:39:54,350
communities where people want
you to be a certain way and you

725
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:58,510
want to be another way, right?
So the right types of

726
00:39:58,510 --> 00:40:02,350
communities can help people
thrive, where they don't have to

727
00:40:02,350 --> 00:40:06,750
be so scared about being wrong,
where they can be themselves.

728
00:40:07,350 --> 00:40:08,990
This has been my mission with
son and Breath.

729
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:12,750
We are creating a community
that's based on true

730
00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:14,750
understanding that we're all
individual.

731
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:15,990
We're all different.
We're all unique.

732
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:17,460
We all have.
Same beliefs.

733
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:19,780
We don't censor people, we don't
stop people from saying what

734
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:22,740
they want, and we're all here to
support each other's growth.

735
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:25,460
This is what I love about my own
value as well.

736
00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:27,980
Same one community, right The a
fence community.

737
00:40:27,980 --> 00:40:30,860
All this.
I started to find people like

738
00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:34,500
this more aligned to what I
thought and this helped me to

739
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:38,220
unravel and heal from this
feeling of isolation.

740
00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:43,010
Humans are social people, sure,
so that in itself can be very

741
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:46,530
cathartic, therapeutic.
That's when you find the others,

742
00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:48,410
when you find people just like
you, right?

743
00:40:49,290 --> 00:40:53,970
That led to getting to know more
people and doing some master run

744
00:40:53,970 --> 00:40:57,810
groups, discovering Copangan and
suddenly being around completely

745
00:40:58,090 --> 00:41:02,530
whole island of people like me.
Yeah, and now we've created

746
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:05,890
massive community people, you
know, 2000 instructors and

747
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:09,210
hundreds of other.
When was Soma?

748
00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:10,890
The company is called Soma
Breath, right?

749
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:13,570
When was that launch then?
That was tweeted as a gunner.

750
00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:16,610
OK.
And you've got 2000 instructors,

751
00:41:17,210 --> 00:41:17,730
Yeah.
And it's.

752
00:41:18,450 --> 00:41:20,730
Incredible.
The way I describe your

753
00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:24,130
experiences, it's like the most
spiritually enlightened rave

754
00:41:24,130 --> 00:41:26,210
you'll ever go to.
You know, it's like, it's so

755
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:29,890
much fun where it's like there's
dancing, but it's not like when

756
00:41:29,890 --> 00:41:32,930
you go to a bar and you're just
tossing back a bunch of beers

757
00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:36,210
and getting wasted and losing
your clarity.

758
00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:39,750
You're entering a higher state
of consciousness through music,

759
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:41,070
through breath, through
movement.

760
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:45,550
I'd love if you could tell us
more about what these workshops

761
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:48,230
are like to somebody who's not
familiar with some of breath.

762
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:52,870
Yeah, I just thought also, I've
actually, since I've got more

763
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:55,590
successful in what we're doing
and got this side right now, the

764
00:41:55,590 --> 00:41:57,870
evidence and created so many
more success stories.

765
00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:01,550
The Indian community that I was
like rebelling against have a

766
00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:05,340
really to this because they it's
all in their culture.

767
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:09,220
Pranayama, yoga or the culture.
I've just presented it in a

768
00:42:09,220 --> 00:42:11,580
scientific way.
So there's not religious

769
00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:13,540
anymore.
And actually a lot of the Indian

770
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:17,540
community in America and
England, for example, are

771
00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:20,740
actually become more Westernized
than the Indians back in India.

772
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:25,820
Do you know what I mean?
White than the white people, the

773
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:29,500
English people are turning to
yoga and traditional stuff, so.

774
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:31,940
One thing I do want to say,
Neeraj is just that.

775
00:42:32,330 --> 00:42:35,730
Folks like yourself, it really
warms my heart to see that

776
00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:38,050
there's more S Asians taking
back.

777
00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:40,850
I don't mean this in a
confrontational way, but I just

778
00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:45,210
mean that there's so much of
this wisdom that's just been put

779
00:42:45,210 --> 00:42:48,370
on the shelf because I think
especially as members of

780
00:42:48,370 --> 00:42:51,290
Diaspora and we're going to
settling these new communities.

781
00:42:51,490 --> 00:42:54,650
We're trying to fit in right.
So we don't want to look to

782
00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:56,730
other and so a lot of times
we'll.

783
00:42:57,090 --> 00:43:00,330
Change our names or we'll change
our accents, or we'll do all

784
00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:03,970
these things just to pardon the
pun, but to whitewash ourselves.

785
00:43:03,970 --> 00:43:06,890
Right.
And so I love the fact that

786
00:43:07,090 --> 00:43:11,650
people like you are bringing
this culture back into the norm

787
00:43:11,650 --> 00:43:15,930
and doing it with the cultural
imprimatur, the credibility

788
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:18,210
stamp, of actually being South
Asian.

789
00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:19,250
I didn't want to say that to
you.

790
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:20,770
I Really.
Yeah, it's amazing.

791
00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:22,930
So yeah, there's a big shift
happening.

792
00:43:22,930 --> 00:43:28,180
And what this means, it's the
now the unification of

793
00:43:28,580 --> 00:43:31,940
community, right?
So the people who would never

794
00:43:31,940 --> 00:43:35,140
have ever got into this stuff
are finally waking up because of

795
00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:37,140
what has happened.
We're going to get to a point

796
00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:40,180
where there's such a wake up
happening right now that there's

797
00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:42,940
going to be a much more cross
pollination of all the

798
00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:46,060
communities that have been, you
know, the ones that have been

799
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:50,060
really into holistic stuff, to
the more mainstream medical

800
00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:52,540
people in the communities,
they're all going to blend

801
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:56,730
together and unite.
So the question you asked was.

802
00:43:57,050 --> 00:43:59,570
Originally had asked about
community and then yeah, I was

803
00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:03,050
also interested more about, in a
nutshell, just kind of like how

804
00:44:03,050 --> 00:44:06,330
would you describe your Soma
breath workshops to somebody

805
00:44:06,330 --> 00:44:10,170
who's, you know, Yeah, so the
experiences itself, what I loved

806
00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:16,570
about the raves I used to run
was the ecstatic bliss and love

807
00:44:16,690 --> 00:44:19,050
and celebration and connection
that people would have.

808
00:44:19,050 --> 00:44:22,850
But what I didn't love about it
was that there's always

809
00:44:22,850 --> 00:44:24,610
inevitably some kind of come
down.

810
00:44:25,070 --> 00:44:28,070
Yeah, it was.
A toxic element to it, Yeah.

811
00:44:29,350 --> 00:44:33,270
So when I discovered it started
dance, I was like, wow, this is

812
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:37,870
like fixes everything because
firstly, there's no one genre so

813
00:44:37,870 --> 00:44:41,390
you can have a whole journey.
Music, dip, tiles, right?

814
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:44,870
So it doesn't get so boring.
Secondly, there was always

815
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:48,390
people when I went to an excited
dance party, had massive smiling

816
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:51,030
faces.
Were dancing as hard as or

817
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:53,800
harder then when everyone was
off their heads?

818
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,880
Like back in, you know, 1999,
right?

819
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,920
It was like the love was there.
So I was like, wow, I want to do

820
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,560
this now.
Well, I started to then combine

821
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,040
the breathing with this ecstatic
dance stuff.

822
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,240
So I produced all the Dars music
and I bring in live musicians

823
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,360
and all this to make it even
more fun and turn that into a

824
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,560
ceremony like.
So that to me was one of the

825
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,980
best community builders that we
had was when we started to run

826
00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:26,100
our little excited dance events.
And then I wrote a festival in

827
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,140
Copacana and it brought
everybody together.

828
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,460
Every Sunday there was like a
dance church in a massive

829
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:36,220
pyramid, 250 people coming in,
celebrate, live together.

830
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:37,940
It was like going to church,
right?

831
00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:40,860
It was in church.
And so I was like, we have to

832
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:42,340
scale this, you have to spread
this around.

833
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:47,500
So, yeah, one of my experiences
is this dance movement, breath

834
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,260
experience, right?
You know, there's another thing

835
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:53,780
Indians would do, right?
Was Gurba.

836
00:45:53,980 --> 00:45:55,140
Remember Gurba?
Yeah.

837
00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:56,940
Yeah.
Yeah, I so.

838
00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:59,500
I'm more of a bungalow guy
because my wife is Punjabi, but

839
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:03,380
yeah, it's all dancing together,
right?

840
00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:06,860
It's a community thing.
And I used to look at that when

841
00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:10,540
I was a kid and I was so sweet
and I love this and so much

842
00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:13,060
love.
And yeah, so I'm trying to bring

843
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:17,380
that back in a cool way that it
crosses over to people who

844
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:20,510
wouldn't normally be into this.
So that's one of the experience.

845
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:25,950
The other experience is really a
transformative, ecstatic

846
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:29,670
experience, but through the
breath and also very healing and

847
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:32,270
therapeutic.
So that's our breath work

848
00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:35,470
journeys.
Yeah, you've experienced both

849
00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:37,630
things.
And these are the things we and

850
00:46:37,630 --> 00:46:41,310
we also do special yoga
practices and other kind of

851
00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:45,120
tantric yoga techniques.
What's a typical Soma breath

852
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,280
client or participant?
What, what is a typical Soma

853
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,440
breath client look like?
I mean, in terms of their

854
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,400
profile like are they coming to
you for specific where it's like

855
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,440
they're experiencing like you
know, chronic disease or maybe

856
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,720
it's anxiety or is it a
combination?

857
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,000
Maybe you can talk in general
kind of what is the typical

858
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,080
profile and then also be if
there's some specific success

859
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,320
stories that really has.
Giving you a sense of validation

860
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,760
about what you've been doing.
You know, I get more and more

861
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,240
surprised at the range of the
types of people that are coming

862
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,560
I.
Can imagine.

863
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,760
So in the beginning when I was
in Thailand, it was preaching to

864
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,320
the convert, right?
There was all Logan teachers,

865
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Reiki masters, you know, Tantra
teachers and digital nomads and

866
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,720
the Wellness and all that.
Now, like all walks of life are

867
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:39,880
coming and discovering what we
do.

868
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Like there's a friend of mine
called Wimhoff.

869
00:47:42,330 --> 00:47:44,610
Super famous guy.
I produced all the music to the

870
00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:46,010
Wimhoff method you go to his
app.

871
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:50,410
I listen to Lotus 8.
That's my running.

872
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:52,050
Yeah.
Yeah, that's my favorite.

873
00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:54,890
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah.

874
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:58,210
So he opened the doors like full
bow down.

875
00:47:58,210 --> 00:48:02,610
Respect to Wimhoff, bringing
these powerful techniques to the

876
00:48:02,770 --> 00:48:04,610
mainstream in such an amazing
way.

877
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:10,050
And that that's converted so
many people to just the

878
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:12,820
breathing can take care of the
breath, right.

879
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:16,460
And then there's been more and
more breath scores coming so

880
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:19,140
that they're starting to push
this stuff out.

881
00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:22,580
And then COVID happened, which
made people care about their

882
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:25,620
respiratory health.
Many things have just happened

883
00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:28,260
in the last three years to
really push this into more of a

884
00:48:28,260 --> 00:48:31,100
mainstream environment.
So it ranges.

885
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:34,300
You know, we have people who
just very normal like

886
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:39,030
construction workers, you know,
just you never imagine would be

887
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:41,830
into this stuff but suddenly get
into our retreats.

888
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:44,230
We have you know, medical
doctors.

889
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:48,110
We have dentists, we have
lawyers, we have corporate

890
00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:51,470
CEO's.
We have, you know, tech stock

891
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:53,310
ups.
You know, we have all sorts of

892
00:48:53,310 --> 00:48:56,990
it's such a cross section.
I mean, if you say like the most

893
00:48:56,990 --> 00:49:01,150
typical, like really have to put
into an average, usually women

894
00:49:01,310 --> 00:49:06,070
who get into it, you know, like
35 and above and somebody who's

895
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,200
longing for, you know, something
more spiritual, meaning, purpose

896
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:14,720
and maybe that they are on their
way to healing something.

897
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,120
Usually, you know, yeah, some
issue health challenge.

898
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,880
We have a lot of instructors as
well.

899
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,080
We're already certified and
other techniques who come to us

900
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,040
as well.
You know, like other coaches,

901
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,560
therapists, hypnotherapists,
massage, rape.

902
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,400
Yeah, want to bring some ref to
their repertoire?

903
00:49:33,010 --> 00:49:34,850
Yeah.
And that community, I guess to

904
00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:37,730
to kind of dovetail on that is
to bring it back to where we're

905
00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:39,650
talking about earlier.
As you know, you and I had met

906
00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:42,450
at Mind Valley and at Mind
Valley University.

907
00:49:42,450 --> 00:49:46,010
I wanted to understand a little
bit more because you mentioned a

908
00:49:46,010 --> 00:49:47,730
fest and maybe you can talk a
little about that.

909
00:49:47,730 --> 00:49:50,890
But how did you get introduced
to Mind Valley and sort of what

910
00:49:50,890 --> 00:49:54,890
does that meant for in terms of
your journey with some of

911
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:57,450
breath?
Yeah, I go introduce to my

912
00:49:57,450 --> 00:50:02,420
valleys through Brisa Pier.
Tom Davey, her husband and

913
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:08,340
Marissa invited me.
So I went to a fest and totally

914
00:50:08,340 --> 00:50:11,020
changed my life.
It's where I started to test out

915
00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:13,620
the breathing technique.
I actually broke my foot on the

916
00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:15,060
first date.
Oh.

917
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:18,420
Wow, in a wheelchair.
And I was like really

918
00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:19,940
embarrassed.
I was like, Oh my God, I'm going

919
00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:22,380
to have to go home and wasted
all this money.

920
00:50:22,820 --> 00:50:26,500
So what happened was I actually
was living very comfortable way

921
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:30,450
of life in Copenhagen, living
the dream for our four minute

922
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:32,690
work week.
But I was just earning a

923
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:35,690
pharmacy salary every month
basically, you know the

924
00:50:35,690 --> 00:50:38,210
equivalent of that.
For four minutes of work, that's

925
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:42,530
quite an hourly wage.
There you were.

926
00:50:42,570 --> 00:50:44,410
There you'd be like, Oh my God,
how did you?

927
00:50:45,330 --> 00:50:48,330
It's like Nirvana, right?
It's like you didn't need to go

928
00:50:48,330 --> 00:50:50,850
anywhere else.
John Davey calls me up and he

929
00:50:50,850 --> 00:50:53,290
goes, we just went to this A
Fest event.

930
00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:59,520
I highly recommend you go to it.
And I'm like, so tell me more

931
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:17,040
about it.
Yeah, prove it.

932
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,720
And they told me the price.
I'm like, for most, my heart

933
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,280
fell out of my mouth.
I was like, are you serious?

934
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,960
And you guys look, for God's
sake, invest in yourself for

935
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,360
once.
So I was like, OK, I'm going to

936
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,840
if he tells me that with that
much, you know, sincerity.

937
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,320
And, you know, so I actually put
quite a lot of money down, like

938
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,520
cost of the flights, hotel
ticket, all of that adds up.

939
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,200
And I was like, shit, this is
going to hurt, you know.

940
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,960
So yeah, you ended up going and
then you break your foot on the

941
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,600
first day and you're.
Going to start.

942
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,080
And what the hell, It was done.
Absolutely ridiculous.

943
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,720
So I remember calling Marissa in
the morning.

944
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:44,400
I was like, you won't believe
what's happened.

945
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,360
You know, I broke my foot.
I mean, I got home.

946
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,400
She goes, don't be silly,
darling.

947
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,240
You're not going home.
You're going to have all these

948
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,360
amazing goddesses looking after
you.

949
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,900
So you better stay.
I was like, okay, she says.

950
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:00,340
So boom, that's exactly what
happened.

951
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,820
Made some amazing friends some
of them remarkable goddesses and

952
00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:09,900
it looks after me and was I
started to test out the

953
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,140
breathing techniques the
practice that this ritual

954
00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:15,820
experience that I created with
music and some breathing

955
00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:19,340
techniques and it was so popular
such a big hit.

956
00:52:19,770 --> 00:52:23,170
Had this a fest that it went
from like a five people in a

957
00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:26,290
room to 60 people in the
basement of a hotel with that's

958
00:52:26,570 --> 00:52:30,250
the scientists measured people's
brain waves having these huge

959
00:52:30,250 --> 00:52:33,770
awakening they they were like we
never seen gamma frequency being

960
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:37,970
created like this in the brain
Wow so that got the attention of

961
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:40,930
the whole mind value community
and after going back to mind

962
00:52:40,930 --> 00:52:45,850
value events I went to Barcelona
after that and so on and then I

963
00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:50,320
started to like get more and
more in with the whole mind

964
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,360
valley they wanted to do to
create a course with me so we

965
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,040
create offers also then and then
that's not later into a quest

966
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,560
which I launched aliens here.
Yep, just doing pretty good.

967
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,360
It's been truly transformative.
I mean, and I'm as cynical as

968
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,280
they come.
I don't fall into all this woo

969
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,400
woo stuff.
And but you know, I'm saying

970
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,920
like if they can make believer
out of me, then I think Vision

971
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,600
and the team are definitely
doing something right.

972
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,990
And it's just.
Sometimes it can be a little bit

973
00:53:16,990 --> 00:53:19,150
overwhelming just because it's
like, you know what you said

974
00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:20,550
about going down the rabbit
hole?

975
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:22,830
You can really just kind of get
lost in there.

976
00:53:22,830 --> 00:53:25,790
So, but you know, yeah, your
quest has been incredible.

977
00:53:25,790 --> 00:53:28,670
I love the limitless dose and
then the gratitude.

978
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:33,910
It's really incredible, so.
Yeah, the layer tracks is some

979
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:36,750
really potent tracks there on.
Yeah, yeah.

980
00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:39,870
I know the one that I really
like is The Limitless, But I

981
00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:42,790
wanted to tell you, Niraj, that
you know, going back to what you

982
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:45,520
were saying about how.
This work, the work you're

983
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,920
doing, and just this movement is
getting traction and it's

984
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,840
becoming more mainstream.
I think I mentioned to you that

985
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,320
we actually did a presentation
to my 8 year old son's 3rd grade

986
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,840
class about mindfulness and
meditation because he had come

987
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,760
home and he was telling me about
this app Headspace, which I'm

988
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,480
sure you're familiar with.
They're using that in the

989
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,600
classroom.
And what was really cool was

990
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,880
Shelly and I went in, We did a
presentation where we simulated

991
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,160
a conflict where I was bouncing
a basketball.

992
00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:16,570
She comes in and grabs it and I
start freaking out like a

993
00:54:16,570 --> 00:54:19,770
typical 8 year old would do.
And then I sort of put it back

994
00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:21,890
to the kids.
I said, has this happened to

995
00:54:21,890 --> 00:54:23,850
you?
You know, how do you deal with

996
00:54:23,850 --> 00:54:26,930
it?
And then we redid it where I did

997
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:30,090
a box breathing thing afterward,
you know, where like she grabs

998
00:54:30,090 --> 00:54:32,930
the ball and I sit down and I
put my hand on my belly and my

999
00:54:32,970 --> 00:54:35,330
and my chest and I start doing
the breaths.

1000
00:54:35,490 --> 00:54:38,170
So I explained the whole concept
of box breathing.

1001
00:54:38,620 --> 00:54:42,100
And then what we did was we did
a simulation where we played one

1002
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,780
of your because you have on your
YouTube channel, you have a box

1003
00:54:44,780 --> 00:54:47,660
breathing exercise.
So we played it for them And

1004
00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:49,940
then afterwards it was talk
about how they felt afterwards,

1005
00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:51,700
they just felt relaxed, they
felt clear.

1006
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:56,260
And so that just makes me really
happy because I think if we

1007
00:54:56,260 --> 00:55:00,780
start demystifying this stuff,
if we start showing it to kids

1008
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:03,340
when their minds are more
fertile, when they're very

1009
00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:05,500
receptive, I think it's going
to.

1010
00:55:06,090 --> 00:55:10,130
Have a ripple effect, you know,
and I think the energy and the

1011
00:55:10,210 --> 00:55:13,930
collective consciousness, the
impact that's going to have is

1012
00:55:13,930 --> 00:55:16,890
going to be epic.
I mean, it's going to have

1013
00:55:16,930 --> 00:55:19,610
economic impacts, it's going to
have impacts on the environment,

1014
00:55:19,610 --> 00:55:22,850
it's going to have impacts on
everything you can imagine.

1015
00:55:23,050 --> 00:55:28,090
So you know anybody who
questions it, anybody who

1016
00:55:28,090 --> 00:55:30,410
questions you know, like oh,
this is all woo woo stuff.

1017
00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:33,090
I think you would actually send
me this study, but there was

1018
00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:37,330
that Pub Med study about.
The benefits of Richaka is it.

1019
00:55:38,890 --> 00:55:43,570
Yeah, on the health, you know,
So I think the first study that

1020
00:55:43,570 --> 00:55:46,970
I came across when I was like
trying to heal myself going into

1021
00:55:46,970 --> 00:55:53,330
all their sure and it was really
in 2011 and the doctor, who's an

1022
00:55:53,330 --> 00:55:58,450
amazing doctor, he was like
Yogi, very, very fit at his age.

1023
00:55:58,930 --> 00:56:02,970
He has a clinic in Haridwar, in
foothills and lanes, and he

1024
00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:06,270
basically it helps people heal
themselves through these

1025
00:56:06,270 --> 00:56:09,710
traditional yoga techniques.
But as I said, the real yoga,

1026
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:14,390
not the mainstream military
yoga, industrial complex or

1027
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:16,030
whatever it is.
Contorting yourself into a

1028
00:56:16,030 --> 00:56:21,670
pretzel with the yoga has
actually gone off the wisdom, of

1029
00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:26,070
course, because traditional yoga
is actually more of a

1030
00:56:26,070 --> 00:56:29,110
contraction exercise, static
contraction, where you hold each

1031
00:56:29,110 --> 00:56:33,090
pose as long as you can, maximum
effort controlling the breath to

1032
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:37,250
create a stay of intermediate
hypoxia in the local area where

1033
00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:39,810
you're reducing the blood flow
to because the stay contraction

1034
00:56:40,210 --> 00:56:42,450
reduces blood flow.
So if you contract a muscle like

1035
00:56:42,450 --> 00:56:46,730
that, right, and hold it, it
forces the muscle to use that

1036
00:56:46,730 --> 00:56:50,090
up, and then it creates A brief
period of low oxygen for a

1037
00:56:50,330 --> 00:56:52,290
moment.
This is what creates the

1038
00:56:52,290 --> 00:56:56,250
adaptive change and makes the
muscle stronger, healthier and

1039
00:56:56,450 --> 00:57:00,890
with more staminant, right.
So what's actually activated in

1040
00:57:00,890 --> 00:57:05,200
that moment are endogenous stem
cells which actually deal with

1041
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,600
the repair and rejuvenation
strengthening and this also what

1042
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,200
happens during high intensity
interval training where you do

1043
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,920
very intense exercise it's
called anaerobic exercise right

1044
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,440
Neo sense of oxygen right.
And that's what wakes up

1045
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,360
indulgent stem cells and you
know produces massive amounts of

1046
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,000
nitric oxide and then creates
the strengthening.

1047
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,330
So there's a breathing technique
in pranial cumbaco and the most

1048
00:57:31,330 --> 00:57:36,050
revered way of doing it, which
the doctor translated is

1049
00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:40,570
nichesha rechako.
And this technique basically

1050
00:57:40,570 --> 00:57:47,050
means hold your breath till you
no longer possibly can.

1051
00:57:47,050 --> 00:57:49,050
That's your maximum effort,
right?

1052
00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:57,370
OK, so after full excel, right?
So the way to do that is to get

1053
00:57:57,370 --> 00:58:02,490
to the maximum breath hold you
possibly can is if you do bust

1054
00:58:02,490 --> 00:58:04,890
streaker first where you're
breathing the CO2 out.

1055
00:58:05,330 --> 00:58:07,650
Because CO2 is what tells your
brain you need to breathe again,

1056
00:58:08,010 --> 00:58:11,130
right?
So when you get rid of the CO2

1057
00:58:11,410 --> 00:58:14,850
you actually then are able to
hold your breath much longer

1058
00:58:14,850 --> 00:58:17,370
than you need to.
And when you get to a 92nd

1059
00:58:17,370 --> 00:58:21,010
breath hold time your oxygen
levels, if you use a pulse

1060
00:58:21,010 --> 00:58:24,050
oxymia here like I got one here
will start to drop.

1061
00:58:24,370 --> 00:58:26,170
Oxygen will drop, drop, drop,
drop, drop.

1062
00:58:26,850 --> 00:58:30,740
And when it goes below 90% you
stuck it into the hypoxic range

1063
00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:35,460
and usually you'll get it down
to like 6050.

1064
00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:39,380
Some people can go down to the
30s percentage S PO2 which

1065
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,740
medical doctor freak out if
this.

1066
00:58:41,740 --> 00:58:46,220
Also you just do it for a brief
period and what this does is it

1067
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:51,260
wakes up very small embryo like
stem cells and also bone marrow

1068
00:58:51,260 --> 00:58:54,460
stem cells, right?
Mesochinal stem cells, right?

1069
00:58:54,460 --> 00:58:58,310
Without circulation.
And they have this innate

1070
00:58:58,310 --> 00:59:00,270
ability to turn into any other
cell in the body.

1071
00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:04,390
And stem cells hates oxygen.
So you love hypoxia.

1072
00:59:04,990 --> 00:59:08,630
They love extreme temperatures,
like what can wake up stem cells

1073
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:12,030
is intense heat.
That's why soreness activates

1074
00:59:12,030 --> 00:59:16,470
stem cells and extreme cold.
That's why always baths work and

1075
00:59:16,510 --> 00:59:19,790
breath holds, because with
breath retention you create

1076
00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:23,100
systemic hypoxia.
For brief period, stem cells

1077
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,860
come out and it takes about two
minutes for these stem cells to

1078
00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:29,540
move around the body, right?
So in 2-2 minutes, breath all

1079
00:59:29,540 --> 00:59:30,740
time.
If you can get to that point,

1080
00:59:30,740 --> 00:59:33,540
which is bit of practice, it's
quite easy to do.

1081
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:37,460
You actually give enough time
for stem cells to proliferate

1082
00:59:37,460 --> 00:59:40,380
and do what they need to do.
It also activates a whole

1083
00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:44,780
cascade of different effects.
So stem cells is one thing that

1084
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:48,980
is done through the pathway of
nitric oxide being activated in

1085
00:59:48,980 --> 00:59:53,690
massive amounts, right.
Also what you get is on this

1086
00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:57,530
hypoxia is because the CO2
levels start to rise a lot and

1087
00:59:57,530 --> 01:00:01,250
the oxides dilator, you get
massive dilation to the brain

1088
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:04,570
and the heart and you get these
coronary cholesterols forming

1089
01:00:05,090 --> 01:00:08,770
natural heart bypasses which
creates strengthening on your

1090
01:00:08,770 --> 01:00:12,970
heart and forms capillaries
around blocked archings if you

1091
01:00:12,970 --> 01:00:15,970
have any right.
And then you get increased blood

1092
01:00:15,970 --> 01:00:18,130
flow to the brain.
You get strengthening initially

1093
01:00:18,130 --> 01:00:19,530
with the brain increased blood
flow.

1094
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:24,100
And you get basically better
vascularization, capillaries and

1095
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:27,980
blood flow all around your body.
So if somebody suffers from rain

1096
01:00:27,980 --> 01:00:32,540
or symptom or diabetic issues
where blood flows diminished to

1097
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:35,740
the regions, extremities can
actually improve with the Senate

1098
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:38,460
erectile dysfunction.
How does Viagra work?

1099
01:00:38,660 --> 01:00:41,660
Right, It works through sedentic
filters like WE.

1100
01:00:41,860 --> 01:00:45,940
Does that have the nitric oxide
of emulating right erectile

1101
01:00:45,940 --> 01:00:50,350
dysfunction to be fixed by this?
So many things can be sold

1102
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:53,230
through this one breathing
technique is incredible and what

1103
01:00:53,230 --> 01:00:56,510
it also trains to do is to
become really efficient using

1104
01:00:56,510 --> 01:00:59,030
oxygen.
So all of these effects I'm

1105
01:00:59,030 --> 01:01:00,390
talking about makes you more
efficient.

1106
01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:03,510
Exhaustion, so you need less
oxygen to breathe right?

1107
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:06,390
To create energy.
So the mitochondria get

1108
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:08,590
optimized if you think the
mitochondria is like little

1109
01:01:08,590 --> 01:01:11,870
small combustion engines
constantly burning oxygen.

1110
01:01:11,870 --> 01:01:14,270
Powerhouse of the body,
Powerhouse of the Cell.

1111
01:01:14,310 --> 01:01:16,390
Yeah, yeah.
That in a fire can cause

1112
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:21,630
cellular damage, right?
And a certain damage can lead to

1113
01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:26,110
mutations, cancer information
and all these things.

1114
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:29,150
They're effective, poor oxygen
efficiency.

1115
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:34,310
So what we do is we finely tune
your Physiology to such an

1116
01:01:34,310 --> 01:01:39,070
extent you go from being one of
these banged out Ford cars that

1117
01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:44,230
run, yeah, efficient gas to
finely tune Teslas.

1118
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:46,670
You hardly make any noise.
And then what happens to the

1119
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:50,380
default state?
The person is that the breath

1120
01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:56,820
becomes calm, silent, subtle,
smooth, right, niaphragmatic,

1121
01:01:56,900 --> 01:01:59,700
rhythmic.
And then when you see a person

1122
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:02,260
who's really well optimized
their breathing, they hardly

1123
01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,420
look like they're breathing at
all.

1124
01:02:04,180 --> 01:02:08,020
So now Sue says the perfect
human breathes, but they don't

1125
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:11,940
breathe at all, right?
And that's the aim of what we do

1126
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:14,220
with summer breath is to bring
some of his default state to

1127
01:02:14,220 --> 01:02:15,860
that.
So when they're not doing any

1128
01:02:15,860 --> 01:02:19,150
techniques, the natural resting
state, they hardly look like

1129
01:02:19,150 --> 01:02:21,070
they breathe.
There's also a reflection of a

1130
01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,110
calm mind.
Calm, content mind.

1131
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:26,150
People's breathing gets much
faster when their mind's very

1132
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:27,910
erratic.
Thinking a lot.

1133
01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:31,630
And they're mulling about past
events or worried about the

1134
01:02:31,630 --> 01:02:32,670
future.
Sure.

1135
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:35,750
Anger full of anger or holding
on to emotion.

1136
01:02:36,110 --> 01:02:39,830
We're only really excited.
It's good to be enthusiastic for

1137
01:02:39,830 --> 01:02:42,150
life, but you don't want to be
like a maniac, right?

1138
01:02:42,310 --> 01:02:44,910
Yeah, right.
You want to have focus channel

1139
01:02:44,910 --> 01:02:47,070
forces you really efficient and
productive.

1140
01:02:47,470 --> 01:02:51,550
So optimizing the breath has a
side effect of improving how you

1141
01:02:51,550 --> 01:02:54,630
think as well.
We've talked about a lot of

1142
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:56,550
metabolic diseases, autoimmune
diseases.

1143
01:02:56,830 --> 01:02:59,750
Part of our podcast is talking
about these modalities for

1144
01:02:59,750 --> 01:03:01,910
mental illnesses.
People who come to your

1145
01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:04,990
workshops have you seen positive
effects with like certain mental

1146
01:03:04,990 --> 01:03:08,910
illnesses like maybe bipolar
disorder or depression or a lot

1147
01:03:08,910 --> 01:03:13,950
with anxiety and depression only
if they do the work like it's

1148
01:03:13,950 --> 01:03:15,990
not a magic bullet.
You're not gonna suddenly just

1149
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:19,150
with a couple of breathing
techniques fix everything.

1150
01:03:19,150 --> 01:03:21,670
Now there's it's a holistic
process we take through people

1151
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:24,550
through a real holistic journey
for self discovery.

1152
01:03:24,550 --> 01:03:28,670
You know thyself with your
system learn here you are and

1153
01:03:28,670 --> 01:03:31,830
then you can customize program
for you.

1154
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:35,070
Customization is the secret
source of sound breath.

1155
01:03:35,070 --> 01:03:36,790
That's what we do it better for
us.

1156
01:03:37,110 --> 01:03:39,310
One-size-fits-all is 1 size
fits.

1157
01:03:39,310 --> 01:03:41,030
None in my mind, I think.
Yeah.

1158
01:03:41,530 --> 01:03:43,730
And a lot of other.
Unfortunately, it's a mistake of

1159
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:46,650
a lot of the other programs.
Yeah.

1160
01:03:47,090 --> 01:03:49,530
So we your own type of person.
Yeah.

1161
01:03:50,050 --> 01:03:51,610
So.
This has been phenomenal near.

1162
01:03:51,610 --> 01:03:54,690
I really appreciate it.
Is there anything else you want

1163
01:03:54,690 --> 01:03:57,770
to say?
Just touch on before we kind of

1164
01:03:57,770 --> 01:04:00,370
wrap things up.
You know, community is not

1165
01:04:00,370 --> 01:04:04,370
always a good thing either
because of the dogmatic problem,

1166
01:04:04,370 --> 01:04:05,050
right?
Sure.

1167
01:04:05,250 --> 01:04:07,970
I have this one saying though I
it's all mine.

1168
01:04:07,970 --> 01:04:12,370
And I got another one from my
I'd love to meet him one day,

1169
01:04:12,370 --> 01:04:15,010
but the person I respect a lot
is BM Hectare.

1170
01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:18,610
He's Paul's tenacity and Wealth
of North Day.

1171
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:21,370
What is the name BM Hegde hey?
Oh, BM Hegde.

1172
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:25,570
Hey, yeah, he's an Ayurvedic.
He's a very he's a cardiologist.

1173
01:04:25,690 --> 01:04:26,610
But.
He's pretty well.

1174
01:04:26,810 --> 01:04:28,810
He's like the expert on Ayurveda
too, right?

1175
01:04:29,010 --> 01:04:30,370
He knows everything about
everything.

1176
01:04:31,370 --> 01:04:37,250
But yeah, he says it's one line.
I is the 1st letter of illness.

1177
01:04:38,010 --> 01:04:41,320
P WE is the 1st 2 levels of
Wellness.

1178
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,840
So become we focused.
Understand that we're a a

1179
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:51,480
collective and you know the
magic rule of success and is why

1180
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,400
Indians can be very successful.
Where they go is they do one to

1181
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,240
others in their community and
they help each other right as

1182
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,680
they expect to be gone to
themselves.

1183
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,040
So they constantly helping each
other to succeed, right?

1184
01:05:06,460 --> 01:05:09,060
And that's keeping in the tribe
actually does that.

1185
01:05:09,420 --> 01:05:12,900
Now what the problem with
community is, right, is this

1186
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:15,260
dogmatic issue when they get so
big.

1187
01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:19,180
So what's happening now is the
big shift that's happening in

1188
01:05:19,180 --> 01:05:24,460
the world now, and I'm going to
see it happening more is tribes

1189
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:25,900
for me.
There's a difference between

1190
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,620
tribe and community.
Tribes are like communities

1191
01:05:29,620 --> 01:05:33,260
within communities.
The problem with tribes okay as

1192
01:05:33,260 --> 01:05:33,900
well.
It can be.

1193
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:38,690
A good thing is that if you look
back in the olden days, right

1194
01:05:38,730 --> 01:05:41,890
the tribal ancestors, they would
always be warring.

1195
01:05:44,330 --> 01:05:43,730
Factionalism.
With other tribes it was more.

1196
01:05:45,290 --> 01:05:50,890
Yeah, so we can figure out a way
for tribes to exist and coexist,

1197
01:05:51,770 --> 01:05:54,850
because not everyone can.
You can't fit everyone into one

1198
01:05:54,850 --> 01:05:56,290
box.
They tried to remember it's

1199
01:05:56,530 --> 01:06:01,090
going to happen, but make it so
each tribe can get on with each

1200
01:06:01,090 --> 01:06:04,280
other, communicate.
I think blockchain and

1201
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,440
decentralization is the key to
this.

1202
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,080
Then the world can thrive and
people can belong to whoever

1203
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,200
they want to be, and they choose
which tribe they were belong to,

1204
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,400
and they can switch without each
tribe fighting war with each

1205
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,200
other.
That's beautiful.

1206
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Yeah, I love that.
It's all about the tribe.

1207
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,840
I mean, I think and I love that
I in illness and we in Wellness

1208
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,680
because we can't all do this on
our own and we we really have to

1209
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,360
tap into that collective
consciousness and energy and

1210
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,500
spirit.
And if people want to find out

1211
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:36,860
more about you, what is the best
place so they can go to?

1212
01:06:37,460 --> 01:06:41,460
Yeah so my Instagram, Neogenek
official Soma Breath, Instagram,

1213
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:46,420
my YouTube channel Soma Breath
and go to our website

1214
01:06:46,420 --> 01:06:49,380
somabreath.com sign up.
You can also find my website

1215
01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:53,620
neogenek.com sobreath.com.
You can get free stuff, download

1216
01:06:53,620 --> 01:06:55,860
some techniques to try out
Limitless.

1217
01:06:55,860 --> 01:06:59,900
As you said, we got a version
there and get involved and maybe

1218
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:01,220
you want to become instructor
one day.

1219
01:07:01,650 --> 01:07:04,490
So Neeraj, thanks so much again.
This was amazing to talk to you

1220
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:07,050
again and look forward to
talking to you again soon.

1221
01:07:07,170 --> 01:07:08,090
Peace.
Good bye.

1222
01:07:08,530 --> 01:07:13,010
Peace.
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1223
01:07:13,010 --> 01:07:16,050
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1224
01:07:16,050 --> 01:07:20,330
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1225
01:07:20,330 --> 01:07:23,690
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1227
01:07:26,770 --> 01:07:29,410
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01:07:29,410 --> 01:07:31,530
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01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:33,530
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1230
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:37,690
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