100: Mas Vidal Maheshananda - Rethinking Evolution and Vitality

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What gives food and people their
vitality or prana?

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What actually drives human
evolution, love or competition?

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Spoiler alert, dog eat dog might
be effective to a point, but

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it's also so last century.
And how do ancient wisdom

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traditions translate into real
life without becoming dogmatic

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ideology?
Stay tuned as we touch on these

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and many other topics on this
week's episode of Untether Your

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Life.
Welcome to Untether Your Life, a

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show that empowers you to break
free of templates related to

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career, relationships and
managing mental and physical

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health, and looks at key issues
impacting the South Asian

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diaspora.
I am your host Nikhil Tarsakar,

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and I'm passionate about the
power of conversation to

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catalyze change.
I first became aware of Masvidal

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Mahesha Nanda in 2023 through
Awake the Life of Yogananda, a

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documentary in which he offers
illuminating insight into

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Paramahansa Yogananda's
teachings and the broader Self

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Realization Fellowship lineage.
I later recognized him again in

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The Natural Law, a documentary
by my friend Amish Shah, who's

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also been a guest on Untether
Your Life.

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In 2025, during a particularly
difficult year for me, I ended

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up meeting Moss in person twice,
first in Carlsbad and later in

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Orange County.
These are places in California

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for the uninitiated.
After each meeting, something

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shifted.
Not overnight, and not in any

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dramatic way, but enough to
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Paramahansa Yogananda's birthday
was January 5th, so the timing

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felt right to reshare this
conversation.

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This also happens to be the
100th episode of Untether Your

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Life.
A huge thank you to the guests,

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listeners, and everyone who's
been a vital part of this

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template shattering journey.
And with that, let's get

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untethered.
So Moss, there's a beautiful

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saying.
You don't, you don't talk much

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about Tikknot Han, but there's a
great saying that he has, which

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is please call me by all my
names.

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So what that means is just
basically, you know, we wear a

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lot of different hats.
We have a lot of different

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identities, but your name is a
very interesting 1.

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So I want to turn that over to
you, Mas.

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And if you can explain kind of
the, it's the East meets W, it's

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the Mas Vidal and then Mahesha
Nanda.

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So if you could share with the
audience kind of the etymology

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behind that unique name.
So my name legally or the way I

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was born is Raul Mas Vidal, with
the last name being Moss Fidel,

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all one word.
And in Latin Moss Vidal

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essentially means more life.
When you look at the the

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etymology of of even the Latin
language, most of it's really

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linked to Sanskrit which I
believe is the original language

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of humanity because it is based
on energy and consciousness and

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the root locks rooted in Word
manas or mine.

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And that also law is correlated
to the moon and the root vid VID

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is in Sanskrit wisdom or
knowledge vidya.

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So by has some coincidence I end
up with the name Mas Vidal.

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You know, in Spanish it means
more life.

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And my Vedanta guru Swami
Jyotirmayananda gave me the name

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Maheshananda, which basically
means bliss through Shiva.

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So I've always correlated with
Shiva as similar as a divine

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link and as the great Mahadev.
As a Yogi, we pay homage to Lord

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Shiva as the great teacher of
all yoga.

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And before we go on, I mean, I
think the background story

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behind how our paths crossed is
pretty interesting.

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I always am amazed by the powers
of synchronicity because as you

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know, with my wife and kids, we
have moved to San Diego in

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summer of last year.
And part of that was inspired by

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the I, I say there's almost like
a gravitational pull from this

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place called the Self
Realization Fellowship, which

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obviously you are very familiar
with, with the meditation garden

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that was up there.
That's my was they say that's my

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happy place.
That's where I always return

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when I'm feeling in moments of
stress, when I'm looking for

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some Shanti, some peace and
quiet.

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So that was the first thing is
that you were actually featured

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in the documentary Awake the
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And then the other thing was
there was a movie that we've had

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a guest on previously, Amisha,
called The Natural Law about

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Ayurveda.
And you had been featured in

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that as well.
And then I think what happened

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was I had shared a clip from
that interview and I think we

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had connected through that.
I say is it's just kind of a

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public service announcement for
the beauty of synchronicity

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because it also happens that you
spend some time in Encinitas,

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you had been living here full
time, but then now you're

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splitting your time between
Florida and and California.

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Is that correct?
Yeah, I've I've been splitting

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my time between Florida and
California for for many years,

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but I still don't consider
California home and and

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particularly Encinitas in San
Diego where I do spend still a

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good portion of my year so.
You know, we've been so happy

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since we moved out here, Mas,
just because obviously I think

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the weather is sort of a no
brainer, but just the spiritual

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energy and just the vibration of
people living out here.

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It just feels like there's so
many aha moments, as they say,

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and so many breakthroughs when
it comes to, you know,

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spiritually, even health, I feel
better.

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There's just so much that can be
said for this amazing spiritual

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ecosystem.
I call it so.

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Yeah.
And you can definitely attest to

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that.
Now, there's a quote in your

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book, Moss, that I think is very
beautiful.

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And that is the world is your
guru.

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I think to maybe dive a little
bit deeper into that and, you

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know, to put some more
specificity, there were two

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gurus that had a deep and
profound impact on your life.

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One of them was Haramahansa
Yogananda, and then the other

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one was Jyothir Mayananda.
And so I would love Mas if you

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could share with us at a high
level sort of how they inform

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your spiritual journey and put
you on the path you're on

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currently.
You know, just to be clear,

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there's only one SAT Guddu.
There's only one individual that

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takes responsibility for a
person's soul.

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I have always felt, at least in
this birth, that my connection

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to Yogananda has been way beyond
this particular life.

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I am a dedicated student sadaq
of the Kriya Yoga tradition.

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I follow it as he has taught and
requested and that adheres to

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his organization, which is the
Self Realization Fellowship.

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However, the world is guru and
we need to learn from everything

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and everyone.
That includes our experiences

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and many great teachers.
In fact, Yogananda's prayer is

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Heavenly Father, a Divine
Mother, Friend, Beloved God,

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Saints and teachers of the
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We bow to you all.
So everyone is our teacher.

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And by no coincidence, Swami
Jyoti or Mayananda, the last

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direct disciple of Swami
Shivananda of Rishikesh, of the

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Great Divine Life Society, has
been in South Florida, Miami in

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particular, actually in my
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neighborhood, where I since
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And so I've considered Joe
Tiramayana that kind of like a

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family guru.
You know, he's here in the South

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Florida area and near my
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live.
And I've always had a love for

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Vedic teachings and the great
epic scriptures of which Joe

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Tiramayana Ananda is a great
gyani and master prolific writer

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and teacher of not just the
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India's greatest, greatest
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He has compiled countless hours
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written many, many books on all
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enjoyed studying this great
wisdom that's really based on

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Vedanta and my brunt.
The revolution pretty much

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presents how Vedanta goes beyond
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theoretical teaching to a
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It is essentially a mindset of
Vedanta does how to think, how

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to use the mind and how to look
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world to transcend the world.
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up

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the book, Moss, because I have
it right here.

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As I mentioned to you, it's just
the quite blend, I think of of

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wisdom.
But accessibility, I think you

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presented in a way that informs
and lightens, doesn't talk down

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or condescend, but doesn't, you
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So I really encourage all my
listeners to check this book

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out.
And you're making a very

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interesting point that I had not
heard before, but that is that

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the word love spelled backward
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So therefore, love is essential
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which is very interesting
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evolution, one of the phrases
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survival of the fittest, right?
Charles Darwin's age-old

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philosophy.
Now obviously there's been the

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acceptance of Charles Darwin's
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I think that has come into
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years.
There's folks like Lamarck.

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Actually, my wife has done quite
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that this notion that human
beings are hardwired for

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competition needs to get a
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We don't need to accept the fact
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script that we're following.
But I, I'm bringing that up

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Moss, because I would love if
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concept of evolution.
And also the full title of the

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book is Yoga Ayurveda and the
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So I want to hear more maybe if
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again, sort of presenting the
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notion of, as I said, the
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And then also soft power
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I think they're very beautiful
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So yes, I think this is
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love is and it's correlation to
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People think that love is
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acquire outside of ourselves.
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explain to us is that love is
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It's your true existence.
It is not something that you

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give.
You cannot give love.

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It is what you are.
You are made in the image of

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love, which is divine and pure
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said, is love today is cupidity.
Basically that people get struck

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with this little hormonal arrow.
We become fixated on loving a

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person based on various
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Transactional model, I guess you
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Yeah, it's a very superficial
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nothing to do with your own
existence in love, your own

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feeling of love as an ever
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We hear the the topic of of
finding your true love or soul

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mates, all of which doesn't
exist our love and the way to

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experience that and expand one's
love or presence of love is to

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remove the conditions of the
mind that are created by egoism

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names forms, I am this, I am
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Namarupa is that the term or
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Thing yes, exactly, yeah, so so
we're removing that and as my

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one of my great counselors once
said to me, learn to be a

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spiritual nobody, right.
All of life is really a practice

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in removing this identity with
something or some person or some

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title that you have.
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spiritual path slowly, what I
often say about Kriya yoga, you

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know, yoga, non discreet
teaching and what he brought to

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the West is that it is a desire
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It's slowly.
You just practice it little by

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little.
And what you don't realize is

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happening is it's just burning
and slowly dissolving desire,

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which is at the very root of
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So as we remove these desires,
we begin to find this

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contentment, this resilience
towards the other or the outside

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world, and we become more
consistent, we become more

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stable.
And this ever fluctuating world

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is not so provocative to us.
And we realize that our state of

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happiness is not so dependent on
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Yeah, a little wonderful gift
that is.

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And that is the process of of
yoga is to expand in that love.

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We can't find it in somebody
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There is no perfect girlfriend,
wife, boyfriend, whatever it is

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that's going to give you love.
You have to create that and

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expand that within yourself and
then share that within a

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relationship.
And that's really key and that's

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a soft power.
Love and cultivation of love

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comes through a gentle practices
being gentle and compassionate

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towards others.
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diet, a diet that it doesn't
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and hundreds of times.
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designed to eat meat.
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don't have the length of the
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metabolize meat.
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soft power culture.
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In my view, Ayurveda which is
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a system of dietetics, of
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seasonal routine, how to adjust
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presented in Ayurveda.
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based on the culture of India,
but it is also a culture in

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itself, the integration of
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And these principles are
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they are practical, and they are
adaptable, regardless of where

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you live on this planet.
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slowly but gradually transforms
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living world and you become more
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patient, more understanding.
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what I call action reaction
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Somebody does something to you
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well, wait a minute, I have to
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It can see that obviously that
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We have lived in the most
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history, particularly the last
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more wars destroy this planet
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destroyed because of hardness
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dominated consciousness or solar
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the world with a solar dominant
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Life on Earth follows A
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that Earth is like a baby and
the sun and moon are constantly

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revolving and moving around us
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way.
Many films that I'm trying to do

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these days is really correct.
A lot of the errors and

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misconceptions that it is today
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history, we see this in science
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Everything comes back and around
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linear way, we need to start
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So these are some of the themes
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culture and the soft power
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It's so important to evolution
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No, that's, that's a very
interesting conception.

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I mean, when I hear the word
soft and culture, you know, I

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think more about conciliatory
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love the fact that you sort of
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to food.
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right?
It's funny, I was having lunch

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with Amish yesterday and he
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cubes.
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that's an Ayurvedic principle,
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Which is to not pursue excesses
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temperature.
Well, look at that's a very

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simple metaphor, right?
In the West, people drink water,

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which is soft.
When you have water, a balanced

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level of water in your body, it
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When you remove water, your skin
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Ice is hard.
The rest is always being about

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hard extremes and doing things
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tough on ourselves and we don't
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We don't integrate the power of
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the moon on many levels, as
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This is an important thing I
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these higher ages.
We are still somewhat in darker

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ages, but we're out of the
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1700.
As we move and continue to

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escalate into these higher ages,
we will grow in our connection

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to the lunar cultural practices
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religion cultures for thousands
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And they celebrate in the
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We see the Chinese New Year as
well, and many practices that

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never quite made it to the West,
right?

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We've kind of reinvented the way
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Americans, American culture is
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We do it all the way.
We reinvent the wheel.

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We've, we've tried to do that
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decades with yoga.
We've renamed yoga.

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We've tried to rebrand yoga.
And, and I've always said

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there's only one yoga.
You don't need to rename it.

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You don't need to give it a new
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The great acharyas, the teachers
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qualities of humanity, right?
Each, every human is endowed

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with these aspects, these
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defines yoga.
That's where yoga and its

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branches.
Come from When people hear the

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word yoga, what I always say is
they have this notion that it's

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about contorting your body into
a pretzel and getting into all

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these forms that are completely
unnatural, when in fact, yoga is

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about control.
It's about harnessing the the

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power of the mind.
So maybe if you can, for the

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people out there who are
concerned that they're going to

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go have to buy a yoga mat and,
you know, go to a bar yoga

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studio and twist themselves into
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Maybe if you can dispel that
myth and maybe provide a little

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bit more nuanced definition of
of yoga for people who are maybe

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intrigued and want to explore
it, but maybe don't know where

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to start.
Yesterday I was walking and, you

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know, just kind of reflecting on
yoga and, and some of the

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conversations of, of yoga and
Ayurveda today.

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And I, what came to mind is
there are still so many people,

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so many people, one that
interpret and define yoga as a

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physical system of fitness.
There can't be a more

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superficial stereotype of yoga
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And that's kind of associated
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Really, it's just all hatha
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All the yoga that you see today
we call hatha yoga, which has

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some deeper esoteric aspects to
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But again, America has
reinvented it, redefined it, or

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it's attempted to.
It's in dying.

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And we're seeing a return to
yoga as an integral form, as a

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system for reforming the entire
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You're not just a body.
You're not just a bunch of skin

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and muscles and bones.
Just because you're more

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flexible doesn't mean that you
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truly are better that you.
You have to get beyond that.

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And, and So what is true yoga?
True yoga is a reformation of

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our attitude, reformation of how
we live in the world and how we

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see the world.
Ultimately, yoga is management

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of the mind, how we use the
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Are we using the mind as an
instrument, as a tool?

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Do we have discipline over our
mind or are we just chasing

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desire after desire?
Monkey mind sort of mentality.

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Mind metaphor that once
mentioned and you know, so we

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have to really distinguish
desires or pleasures of life

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with joy. 2 very very one is
superficial.

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The former's very superficial
desires are based on sensory

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sensations, and joy is profound.
It's limitless.

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It comes from our true essence,
which is the soul, and yoga aims

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at reuniting us with that.
As the scriptures, the great

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Upanishad say, the Mahabakiya
say cut tuamasi, that spirit, I

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am Aham Brahatzni, that's what I
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I am he, I am he, blessed
spirit, I am he.

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Once we grow nearer to that, we
develop a new identity with who

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we are, and this is the process
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We are seeing a big change in
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You know, I have traveled
extensively for the last 20

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years, not just all over the
United States, but in many

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different countries all over the
world sharing my negotiate of a

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unified practice of yoga and
Ayurveda.

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And what I have seen throughout
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is an interest in an integral
approach, not just physical

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yoga, but meditation has been
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We're seeing the now the growth
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We're also seeing now the
tremendous interest in sound

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healing or sound therapy, all
yoga, all of this is there.

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These are parts of different
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We're seeing people more and
more interested in lifestyle and

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the culture.
Wrestlers are becoming more

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Indian in many ways because it
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You know, Yogananda's message,
Ramatir, if they all were really

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great stalwarts of that, that
there's a great material

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efficiency in the West, powerful
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But that spiritual wisdom, that
depth, that connection to

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rituals is there in the East.
And both of these coming

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together really play, I think,
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evolution of humanity in the
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One thing I did want to dive
into a little bit more deeply

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Moss is the concept of monkey
mind, because that is something

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that I think is a mass epidemic
right now in our world.

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You know, everybody is so
consumed by the latest and

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greatest and buying a you know,
the latest car, the the latest

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Tesla or you know, whatever
trappings of quote UN quote

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making it and it can and be
exhausting, even if you're not

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chasing it just thinking about
it, just being on the hamster

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wheel.
In your book, you talk about how

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meditation it's almost like
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Or it's like peeling a banana
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Mind specifically, but you know,
meditation and many methods

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correlated to meditation.
Mantra and breath are important.

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But here here's what people have
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You can't expect the mind to
calm itself and feel peaceful

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and focused if you're meditating
once a week or let's even call

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it a little bit every day if
your lifestyle is contradictory

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to it.
We have to add up the hours.

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And if you add up the number of
hours that you're doing

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correlated to line stimulation,
social media, computers,

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watching films, sensory, you
know, stimulation, which is huge

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today, right, with iPhones and
all that stuff, it has a

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majority power over the mind and
the cumulative wins.

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Whatever you do the most is what
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So add up the hours every day,
add up the hours every week, add

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up the hours every month and
year, and at the end of your

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whole life, what you have is the
sum total of whatever's at the

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top wins.
That's what you are.

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So we really have to adjust, not
just having meditation and

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focusing, calming techniques,
but also a lifestyle that is

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natural, that is supportive,
that is disciplined.

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We can't just run around like
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We have to live in accordance
with nature's.

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She's in control.
She has the power, right?

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That's why we call her Mother
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And so Mother has this grand
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influence us.
We either ignore her power or we

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work with that power.
And this is very, very

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important.
We can't just lock ourselves in

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little boxes in the sky and
press buttons all day long and

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expect to, you know, be
connected to this tremendous and

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divine and consciousness that is
within us that can light up a

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city.
So again, it has to be both the

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mind, the practice, the
discipline, but also, you know,

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that lifestyle.
So the two really have to go

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together.
The inner world and the outer

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world.
These are the the balance

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between East and West.
The Eastern cultures always

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drawn a strong influence on
what's within us, on these inner

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powers.
And the Western world is saying

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it with the external.
I was thinking about the concept

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of a river or a lake versus a
forest.

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When you think about a forest,
every tree is this discreet

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entity, right?
Everything is sort of like the

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self-contained universe versus a
body of water which everything

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permeates.
You put a drop of some toxic

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material, it's going to
permeate.

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I think that's what we have to
do is maybe when we focus on

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living a life that's more in
line with this.

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What you talk about with the
revolution, revolution, we need

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to think of it all as a body of
water and that we can't just

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have this drop of mindfulness.
We can't have this drop of a

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prana focused lifestyle in this
lake of toxicity.

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What do you think about that?
I don't know, I just keep.

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Up it's a beautiful metaphor and
water the ocean as being a

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common metaphor in the ancient
wisdom traditions.

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00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,440
I think we need to realize that,
you know, that the world that we

452
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,400
see outside of us is created by
by us.

453
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,280
We're projecting that world.
We're creating that world.

454
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,040
If we want to change the world,
we really have to change

455
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,000
ourselves, you know.
So who is projecting what is

456
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,720
coming out of the projector?
I feel this is a growing

457
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,760
concept.
People are beginning to realize

458
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,760
that we can't chase changing the
outer world.

459
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360
And that's not a measure of
evolution.

460
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680
Look, there were wars during the
Vedic era.

461
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:32,160
There were talks, people, during
very elevated time during the

462
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
golden era, thousands and
thousands of years ago.

463
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,680
But it doesn't mean that that
was the whole world, right?

464
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,640
There's always this balance of
darkness and light through

465
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,080
periods where, you know, things
in the world are a little bit

466
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,560
more abundant and more evolved
and more delightful.

467
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,400
And then we go through cycles
where that's obviously not so

468
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,960
evident.
But I do want people to feel

469
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,760
optimistic.
I think we are living currently

470
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,400
in this, this age at a very
auspicious time in human history

471
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,640
in a practical sense, in a sense
of time and space.

472
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280
I think that this is a unique
time.

473
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Now, that conversation is
irrelevant.

474
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,720
If you realize that what is
today what, what is the year

475
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,160
2024, you create that.
So really what's happening

476
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,960
externally in the world is also
not so relevant.

477
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,400
And we really, you know, need to
be more focused on what's going

478
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:41,160
on within ourselves and not try
and look at our life and or

479
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760
measure our life from an
external sense.

480
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Go upon your spiritual
practices, do your best given

481
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,240
your set of circumstances in
karma, and let the divine take

482
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,200
care of the rest.
You know there has to be an

483
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,360
element of surrender.
There's there's only so much we

484
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,120
can do given the the forces of
karma and conditioning.

485
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,280
But it doesn't mean that one
should just give up our self

486
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,920
effort.
Our practices continue as a

487
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,440
lifelong approach.
It is till the very end we have

488
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,840
to constantly practice, create
the right environment, a

489
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,560
supportive environment and
adhere to these eternal natural

490
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760
laws.
You know, Mas, just continuing

491
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600
on, you know, we had just
touched on about the notion of

492
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,840
water.
You have this beautiful analogy

493
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,120
in the book where you're talking
about somebody who's on on a

494
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680
dock waiting for the boat to
come in to take them on a

495
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,200
mission.
And then a seagull comes by.

496
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,280
They get sort of transfixed on
that, and then they missed the

497
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760
boat.
And yeah, so I want to touch on

498
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840
that because it's almost like a
word of caution to people,

499
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680
right?
Because I think as they're

500
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920
getting more deep into the
spiritual journey and you talk

501
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,160
about this awakened
consciousness, they do also need

502
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,440
to stay grounded.
You know, it's like the analogy

503
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,440
of trees with the treetops kind
of flowing in the wind and being

504
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,040
subject to all the chaos, but
the trees remain planted firmly

505
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,880
in the ground.
So maybe if you can talk about

506
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,120
that, because you've obviously
had a very rich and storied

507
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,360
tradition and and legacy with
spirituality, but maybe if you

508
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360
can touch on that.
Yeah, you know, that's, that's

509
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,240
very important.
And I'm very glad that you're

510
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,720
asking that because, you know, I
do a lot of counseling and

511
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Ayurvedic consultations that
integrate astrology and I find

512
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,400
there's a consistent unique
quality to that person that

513
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,560
comes to a session.
And I was just saying this to a

514
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000
client patient yesterday.
You know, you don't come to me

515
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,600
when everything's good in your
life.

516
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640
You come to me when things are
tough, when you lose your

517
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560
health.
There are very auspicious

518
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:01,120
timings in everyone's life and
there are doors that open in our

519
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:07,440
lives that are opportunities for
tremendous growth, tremendous

520
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:14,200
evolution, tremendous abundance,
maybe a job opportunity, maybe,

521
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,680
you know, a new group or
organization that you could

522
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,720
connect with.
And these don't come that often

523
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,400
in our life.
We have to realize that, and we

524
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,760
have to seize these
opportunities as very auspicious

525
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,760
and very, very sacred.
And those doors open based on

526
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,400
your past and current karmas
because you created that opening

527
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920
that door.
And part of it has to do with

528
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,280
the period in human history that
you're now embodied in and

529
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,720
living in.
Why do I have to deal with war?

530
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,000
Why do I have to deal with a
certain president?

531
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,160
Why do I have to deal with the
debasement of, of Fiat currency?

532
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,800
See, you know, many people are
concerned with a lot of odd

533
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840
things and, and things that
we're seeing today.

534
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,560
And I would say make sure you
look through those doors and

535
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:14,760
look at what lies beyond those
doors because you may miss that

536
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,440
opportunity to walk through that
door, which would then open a

537
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,840
tremendous dimension of
spiritual growth and

538
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,239
consciousness and evolution and
abundance that may not come

539
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,520
again even in this life.
It may take multiple

540
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,520
incarnations to re manifest that
opportunity.

541
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,800
And so that is something that I
often say to people, especially

542
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,760
those coming to yoga, to
Ayurveda, to counseling.

543
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,000
And I will say to them, I said,
listen, you've got a period

544
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,639
here, it's three months, six
months a year, Cease it.

545
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,880
And, you know, and this is a
common teaching, the great ones,

546
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Parma Hansa Ramakrishna or
Monsieur Venanda, they often

547
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,640
said, you know, Rama Krishna's
famous quote was, you know,

548
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,560
chase spirituality like a man
whose hair is on fire.

549
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,480
Cease the pond.
And there has to be this foot.

550
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,880
There has to be this, I gotta
get this Now.

551
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,320
Waiting doesn't work.
And those that don't wake and

552
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,800
those that, as Guruji Yogananda
says, take the power of

553
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,480
initiative, they make it happen.
They reach out.

554
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,360
They find a way to do what they
gotta do to get through that

555
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,440
door.
As the great Joseph Campbell

556
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,680
would said, when one follows
their bliss, doors open where

557
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,480
there were walls, When you
become aligned with what is

558
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,800
sacred and divine, that wall,
that barrier that you couldn't

559
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,560
seem to get through, now
suddenly, ah, the divine is say

560
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,960
you are in divine alignment, my
child.

561
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,800
Continue taking these steps in
that direction and things

562
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,840
magically manifest and
synchronize.

563
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,040
We are now in the domain of
synchronicity and that's the way

564
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,120
this world works.
Everything is synchronized and

565
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,960
then it's not so much always
just in.

566
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,640
I think in the beginning there's
a joyous ain't wow.

567
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Was it it synchronicity that you
know this happened or that rile

568
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,760
you realize you just, there was
a little smirk, There's a little

569
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,360
smile inside of you.
It says, ah, I know you're

570
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,080
speaking to me.
I know you're guiding me.

571
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,480
I don't need to say this.
I don't need to talk about it.

572
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,720
I feel it.
I bow to that and it happens so

573
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:48,320
continuous.
It's no longer a superficial

574
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,600
pleasure anymore.
It's just you saying I know I'm

575
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,320
in that, that accordance, I'm
headed in the right direction.

576
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,400
When it becomes as essential to
living as, as breathing, right?

577
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,640
Just sort of recognizing, it's
like when you're driving, you

578
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,560
know, you see a red light, you
know it means stop.

579
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,720
When you see a green light, you
know, you basically acknowledge

580
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,520
the synchronicity in your life
and you do.

581
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,320
It doesn't need to be a discreet
event.

582
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,440
It's almost like a process
that's running in the

583
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,520
background.
Yeah.

584
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,200
And it's, it's being linked to a
power that is beyond your power,

585
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,480
that it is the very source of
what's sustains you.

586
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:30,920
That's what this evolutionary
period represents, a return to

587
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,560
that source.
And more and more people are

588
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,600
looking for that resolve in
their life.

589
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,480
And that's what's beautiful.
It's beautiful to to see that

590
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,440
supposed to you know what,
especially in the Western world,

591
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,040
we have a lot of financial and
material wealth.

592
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,960
And many people think that
that's the solution to our

593
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,440
problems.
I my view is that that's, that's

594
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,920
our problem.
We have to stop thinking that

595
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,480
financial freedom or finances or
more Fiat or Bitcoin or whatever

596
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,040
it is leads to freedom.
Sure, that's a part of it.

597
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,240
It can help you and help support
more spiritual time and practice

598
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:15,280
and all of that.
But that's really a superficial

599
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,800
way of looking at it.
As you continue this work and

600
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,160
you continue this lifestyle of
these practice, as you begin to

601
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,760
realize less and less, why am I
putting time into something that

602
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,320
doesn't last?
I don't take any of this with

603
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,200
me.
I think Yoga none that had said

604
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,040
that, right?
We come into this world with no

605
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,880
rupees, and we leave with no
rupees or.

606
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,760
Oh, constantly.
I mean, look at people just

607
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,720
slipping around and then high
speed cars, like just going

608
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:47,280
crazy, working, working,
working, trying to put some

609
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,360
green paper in a bank account
and it really doesn't go

610
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,840
anywhere.
It doesn't take them anywhere.

611
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,320
Now there's a way to do that and
a way to work that is more

612
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,120
balanced and there is teaching
around that and that's one of

613
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,880
the core principles of what we
teach in many of our courses.

614
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,600
But you're not seeing a lot of
that today yet.

615
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,880
It's growing, but we really got
to get people out of that

616
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,840
chasing the 1,000,000 bucks kind
of attitude.

617
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,960
There's that old homily, which
is, you know, money doesn't buy

618
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,680
happiness, but in some respect,
you know, money is in essence,

619
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,600
it's a measurement of some type
of worth, whether it's how hard

620
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,720
you've worked or how that's
recognized by the market or

621
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,160
whatever you want to call it.
But at the end of the day, it is

622
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,760
a measure and I'm bringing that
up because I want to tie it into

623
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,240
something else that I found very
interesting that you brought up

624
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:44,280
last, which is when we talk
about nutrition, which is very

625
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,160
central to Ayurveda, when we
measure how quote UN quote good

626
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,560
certain types of food are, we
talked about like things like

627
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,600
vitamin, we talked about
calories, we talked about

628
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,360
carbohydrates.
But I think what you make the

629
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,320
interesting point that in a lot
of ways that's not really the

630
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,600
most relevant or important
thing.

631
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,080
What's really important is the
prana.

632
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,160
And I'm bringing that up
because, you know, we've talked

633
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,160
so much about so many different.
Things but I'd be remiss if I

634
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,400
didn't bring up the concept of
prana, which is an old life

635
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,840
force.
But I would love to hear from

636
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,160
you about what people can do to
enhance their prana and their

637
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,040
life force and just live a
better, healthier life.

638
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:29,080
You know, this is this is an
appeal to the Western athletic

639
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,120
fitness world.
To be transparent, I am an

640
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,120
athlete.
I enjoy the fitness world.

641
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,800
I, I've enjoyed athletics to a
very extensive level in my life.

642
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,480
However, we have to stop
thinking that we're trying to

643
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,040
live forever.
We have to stop thinking of

644
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,120
human performance on merely a
physical level.

645
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,560
It's not how strong your muscles
are, right?

646
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,440
It's not how good you look
externally.

647
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,200
So these are factors that are
very important in Ayurveda which

648
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,560
relate to the concept of prana,
which is life force.

649
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:15,520
The whole basis for Ayurvedic
medicine is that we increase our

650
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,880
human capacity for life force.
Why?

651
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Because life force is correlated
to consciousness, life force is

652
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:36,240
a path, a power that can expand
us into higher realms of

653
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:42,720
awareness beyond again the ego,
beyond the limitations of of

654
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,160
mind and body.
Take for example, foods and

655
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,680
frozen foods in particular.
We see the use of freezers a lot

656
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,840
today in modern age and, and
that's the concept that, you

657
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,560
know, Ayurvedas very oppose.
You can't freeze product, you

658
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,600
can't freeze the life force,
which is the most important

659
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,480
component of food.
Well, you can freeze to a

660
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,840
certain extent some of the
flavor and that you can freeze

661
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,680
some of the vitamins and
minerals that are in that food

662
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,760
to a certain extent.
But the sooner that we can eat

663
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,080
that food from the time that it
leaves nature, the more powerful

664
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,120
it becomes to our well-being.
We don't want to refrigerate

665
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,080
food for long periods of time.
We don't want to even freeze

666
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,480
food, which should be no need
for a freezer.

667
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,520
We want to eat food that's
fresh.

668
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,760
We want to eat food that's
organic, that is not sprayed or

669
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:44,600
has some type of hormone in it.
And we want that organic

670
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,600
component to, you know, support
our mind and our body so that we

671
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,840
can increase our products.
And then we we begin to feel

672
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
very different.
We begin to feel not only

673
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,480
entered more energized on a
practical level, but we develop

674
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,120
a sense of acuity.
There's something that plant

675
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,800
based diet does.
We're able to into it and

676
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:14,240
understand aspects of life that
we could for many years not

677
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,320
understand.
They were like blocks.

678
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,080
They were like hindrances.
And diet is 1's component.

679
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,840
Then people say, well, where do
you get your protein from?

680
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,880
Well, who says I need protein?
Who says I need carbohydrates?

681
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,160
So we don't look at nutrition in
the form of fats, proteins,

682
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,640
carbohydrates.
The way science presents it.

683
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:40,800
We look at nutrition based on
earth, Wat and fire, air, the

684
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,680
elements.
That's the essence in the food.

685
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,000
That's what we want.
And that's what's important to

686
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,320
throw the protein conversation
out.

687
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,800
America eats more meat, uses the
death of animals more than any

688
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,920
other country in the world.
We lead the world in in chronic

689
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
diseases.
We don't live longer than any

690
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,560
other country in the world.
In fact, we live much less than

691
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,200
the average lifespan over 2000
years ago in Vedic.

692
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,560
Yeah, we live longer thousand
plus years ago.

693
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Now, scientists need to get this
right.

694
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Scientists think that everything
started in one particular place,

695
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,480
that we were a bunch of Cavemen
with clubs in our hands and in

696
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,440
now we're the smart people.
We were of all.

697
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,320
I would say you need to study
history and we need to rewrite

698
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,120
history.
We're a little bit unconscious,

699
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,800
right?
We lack a lot of understanding.

700
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,080
We were much wiser than and we
need to return to that knowledge

701
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:48,080
that is rooted in a natural
universal wisdom that supersedes

702
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,880
any study.
Anything that is limited based

703
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,040
on material is a material form.
And this is what we're doing

704
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,520
with.
This is an age of truth.

705
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,320
We're in an age now where people
want to know where does this

706
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,720
come from?
What does this represent?

707
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:13,400
And we slowly start to dissolve
all of these eyes and conditions

708
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,000
and things that really segregate
us from that singular truth.

709
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,520
There's one truth.
There are many paths to that

710
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,320
truth.
One of the quote UN quote

711
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,000
improvements and productivity
enhancements, I say that in like

712
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,280
triple quotes has been
technology, obviously.

713
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,760
And I always go back to the
amazing statement that

714
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,680
everything is energy, right?
And with technology there's a

715
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,320
explosion of energy.
I mean, if you think about all

716
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,560
the calculations and all of the
activity that's going on in your

717
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,040
laptop or your iPhone and your
what's going on internally, you

718
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,880
know, all the neurons that are
firing and all the energy that's

719
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,240
going on, it's too much for us
to take.

720
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:55,440
And I think you make a great
statement in the book, which is

721
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,480
you're saying that technology is
a new drug that will lead to

722
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,360
more complex diseases.
If you could share a little bit

723
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,720
more about that Moss, because I
will tell you from personal

724
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:07,560
experience, more so than, you
know, alcohol or drugs or any

725
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,520
other vices, I would say that
has been the biggest challenge

726
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,160
for me because, you know, as a
content creator, as someone

727
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,040
who's trying to spread a
message, it stands to reason

728
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,120
that you're going to need to use
these channels like Instagram.

729
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,840
But you know, I use a lot of
these channels, but they can put

730
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,800
you in this hypnotic state.
You know, as you said, they can

731
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,680
render you unconscious,
emotionally, spiritual.

732
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,960
But maybe talk to me more about
maybe what you see as the impact

733
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,040
that technology is having on
human consciousness and life

734
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,600
force, and also what people can
do to address the damaging

735
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,680
effects of this toxic force.
Look, you know, today we have a

736
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,360
computer, we have a handheld
phone with different apps on it.

737
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Look, 1000 to 2000 years ago,
you had a hatchet, you had a

738
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,000
sword, you had, you know, a
couple utensils to eat with and,

739
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,120
you know, so the tools change.
There's been an evolution of

740
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,240
that.
But how we use them hasn't

741
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,040
changed.
You know, we, we need to be very

742
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,400
careful with how we use them
because technology in this way

743
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,960
is a new, new form of
technology.

744
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,600
We had forms of technology that
existed thousands of years ago.

745
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,920
The only difference is the
mechanism has changed.

746
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,400
We are a little overwhelmed with
it.

747
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,000
There is a sort of an excitement
around it and there's an abuse

748
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,520
around.
And we have to be very careful

749
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:38,840
because as modern medicine aims
to eradicate the major chronic

750
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,200
illnesses that the world is
challenged with, like cancers

751
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,680
and heart disease, obesity,
diabetes and these types, we are

752
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:53,720
embarking on a very, very subtle
disorder, which is correlated to

753
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:59,800
neurology and psychology, which
brings in much fire, much deeper

754
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,080
complexities for treating.
Because when you get into things

755
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:11,400
like paranormal experiences,
psychedelics, which we see a lot

756
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,000
of with today, you know, many
people relying that on these or

757
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,360
using these for experiences,
it's with much danger.

758
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,760
And we're seeing a lot of abuse
with these things.

759
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,200
And there's a desperation in
society.

760
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,480
They want to heal quickly, want
evolution today.

761
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,600
They want peace and happiness,
right?

762
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,880
And unless we return to more
natural living, simple living

763
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920
and high thinking, there is
going to be great, great

764
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,760
problems.
And we're already seeing it.

765
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,920
In just 20 years of my Ayurvedic
counseling practice, more and

766
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,280
more of the issues that I'm
seeing at the very root of the

767
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,560
problem, when I get to what's
causing the problem, it's misuse

768
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,760
of the senses, it's misuse of
the mind.

769
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,160
It's, it's a conditioning in
their mindset.

770
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:08,400
I can't do this.
And we inhibit and we create a,

771
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,680
a sort of a programming in our
mind, in our brain, then then

772
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,880
sends a signal through the
nervous system into the organs

773
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,560
into our into our physiological
system.

774
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,000
And the body is just mirroring
the mindset.

775
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,880
That's why yoga is not just a
physical system, it's a mindset.

776
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,040
It's not just cultivating a
positive mental attitude, but it

777
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,000
is also cultivating a positive
environment.

778
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,120
You are what you surround
yourself with.

779
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,720
And unless you're a sage or a
great, great Rishi, you better

780
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:49,320
be very careful as to where you
hang out and who you speak to

781
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,240
and what you talk about and what
you do and add up those hours.

782
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,160
And this is the culture that I'm
talking about.

783
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,160
We are all part of an important
culture that now is taking

784
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,760
responsibility for our own life.
And we're saying, hey, I want to

785
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,200
go here.
I want to go there because it's

786
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,840
natural, because I have fellow
beings that eat a nice and a

787
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,040
more nonviolent way, plant based
vegetarian diet.

788
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,320
We do think that are connected
to nature.

789
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,720
Maybe it's hiking, surfing, we
enjoy meditating in a group or

790
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:34,080
outdoors and this is the power
sun as the great Adi Shankara.

791
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,600
Shankara was one of the great
Vedic scholars, one of the great

792
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,000
Rishis of modern times for.
People who are less familiar,

793
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Sunghai, you're talking about
like community, that type of

794
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,880
thing.
Community.

795
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,960
Yes, this is a sense of creating
culture.

796
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,720
I use the term culture as a sort
of way to define it in a broader

797
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:58,840
context.
Some of as is is really creating

798
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,760
your own culture that is beyond
identity with a religion, beyond

799
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,920
identity with a particular
working class or skin color.

800
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,960
And it has to do with an
accordance that links you to

801
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,800
natural principles.
What connects us is that we're

802
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,400
interested in natural law,
realize that we're responsible

803
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,680
for the world that we live in,
we're responsible for the

804
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:31,560
experiences that we are having
in our life, and we are doing

805
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,640
the work to change that.
And if we do that work together

806
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,200
and spend more time in proximity
to each other, that helps us to

807
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,800
change.
That helps us to do better as we

808
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,800
make an effort.
And Shankara said it, he said.

809
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,840
You know that community GERD
culture will lead you to

810
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,880
liberation.
Community alone satsangatwe

811
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,560
Nihasangatwang yeah sangha to I
mean mohat to I mean mohat to

812
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:05,560
launch loca but it really states
that it has to begin right

813
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,400
there.
This is about community.

814
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,920
You're creating a wonderful
community here with your

815
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,920
podcast.
You're bringing people to learn

816
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,040
and to listen to a certain
quality dialogue that you're

817
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,560
presenting and you're creating.
And we have retreats.

818
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,680
There are courses and there are
many like cities now throughout

819
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,000
the US and the world that we all
like to go to write India,

820
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:35,160
there's Santa Fe, the Encinitas
writing, you know, Costa Rica,

821
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,040
Mexico, you know, and we all
like Chicago Glee to meet up at

822
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,720
these these great collection
show.

823
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,920
I did want to jump on that
mosque because we've talked

824
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,800
about so much amazing stuff, but
I'd be remiss if I didn't

825
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,080
mention the fact that in
addition to your books, in

826
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,600
addition to these media
appearances, you have so many

827
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,640
amazing tools.
It's an amazing platform that

828
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,160
people who want to go deep,
which I'm sure many listeners as

829
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,600
well.
After hearing this, we'll want

830
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,800
to go further into.
I would really like to give you

831
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,320
the opportunity Mas, if you
could talk a little bit about

832
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,400
it, the dancing Shiva school,
maybe what is it more life?

833
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,960
And what's interesting is
literally until, I mean, I speak

834
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Spanish as well, but I didn't
think about that because I, I

835
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,400
looked at the packet with the
protein powder and I was like,

836
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,120
what is more life?
What is more life?

837
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,320
And then as you were explaining
your name, I'm like, oh, now it

838
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,040
makes perfect sense.
So.

839
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,400
But if you can talk a little bit
more of us about Dancing Shiva,

840
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,520
about the courses, the retreats
and maybe the online store.

841
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,200
You know, I started this school
dancing Shiva in Los Angeles in

842
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,040
2001 and it was focused on the
integration, the unification of

843
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,240
yoga and Ayurveda.
Yoga alone is not enough.

844
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080
That's been my mantra.
You have to bring yoga and

845
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,720
Ayurveda together as a balance,
to balance mind and body,

846
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,600
spiritual evolution.
I have a number of courses, 50

847
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,960
hour, 200 hour, 250 hour, 600
hour and all of them are based

848
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,640
on an integrative approach.
We bring in the yoga, all

849
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,920
aspects of it, the Ayurveda, the
yoga therapy.

850
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,000
We also bring in the Vedic
astrology which adheres to the

851
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,160
sidereal Zodiac and how that
astrology can be used in a

852
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,640
practical way.
And how astrology was used is a

853
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,760
part of IR Veda as a medical
astrology for forecasting a

854
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,880
difficult period to prevent
imbalances and things like that.

855
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,160
But we also look at other
subtler branches like the

856
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,480
Vedanta.
We bring in the Vedantic

857
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:44,160
teaching and and how that plays
a role in influencing yoga and

858
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:48,880
Ayurvedas as a mindset
philosophy, right as a mental

859
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,800
attitude, how to carry that
mental attitude today.

860
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,400
So we use these great teachings
that by no coincidence were

861
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,640
burst in this country now called
India, at once called Bara to

862
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:09,280
and we are having to turn to
this great wisdom culture.

863
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,440
As I've said, the divine God had
to leave humanity at key

864
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,720
somewhere on this planet and he
left that key in India.

865
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,360
We now humans have that key.
The books the knowledge are all

866
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,400
over the world and he had to
drop it seminar on this planet

867
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,640
and he left it there for us.
And this great Indian culture is

868
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,040
in Renaissance now like never
before.

869
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,600
On fire unify returning to these
natural principles.

870
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,040
The importance of non violence
in culture, the yoga and all of

871
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,720
these things.
And you know what I bridge doing

872
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:50,120
my more life market platform,
which is very special.

873
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:53,520
My family's been involved in the
nutraceuticals business for

874
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,760
many, many years.
Obviously, I've studied

875
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,120
herbology and I launched this
company because I wanted to

876
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:05,080
create an approach to Ayurveda
that was a little bit more of a

877
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,640
hybrid so that more Westerners
would begin to use Ayurveda

878
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,080
beyond just practitioners,
right?

879
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,480
Ayurveda can be used for
enhancing human potential, for

880
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,600
improving your yoga practice,
right?

881
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,640
For improving your pickleball
game.

882
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:29,880
OK, even you know, boxing, if
you're a boxer, I can talk to

883
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,120
you about how Ayurveda can be
used for that.

884
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,640
Surfers, it's for everyone and
it's not just for balancing the

885
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,160
doshas and living a skinny and
flexible life.

886
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,000
It's you bring.
Up a great point Moss, because I

887
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,200
think that is 1 objection.
I guess you could say when I

888
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,200
tell people about what I'm
really getting into, first of

889
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,720
all, they always say I don't
have time for that stuff or that

890
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:56,360
seems and I hate this word, but
they say it's woo woo.

891
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,120
Well, it's not actually because
if you go to pub Med and you

892
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,640
look up these studies, there's a
lot of science behind it.

893
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,200
There is stuff and sometimes you
don't even need the science, but

894
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,000
if you really do want to have
that red herring, there is a

895
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,480
wealth of data that backs up the
benefits of things like

896
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,840
ashwagandha or turmeric and a
lot of these healthy practices

897
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680
like prana M.
So I bring that up because my

898
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,480
whole thing is these practices,
if you take the time and you do

899
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,200
it with intention and you make
space for it and you make an

900
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,200
effort to integrate it, not just
see it as a stand alone

901
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,400
practice.
But really, as we talked about

902
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,840
that metaphor about a body of
water, really get part of your

903
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,840
body of water, you're gonna get
that raise.

904
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,040
You're gonna have that better
relationship.

905
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,000
And again, I don't say This is
why I do it per SE, but if

906
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,520
people really want to get those
benefits, this is the way to do

907
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,560
it.
It sounds like that's seems to

908
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,160
be like you've had some success
with getting people to adopt

909
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,760
these for for some pretty good
outcomes, it sounds like.

910
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,920
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, I I on the outside, I'm

911
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,360
a regular guy.
I do live the life, you know,

912
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,720
with enjoy many aspects of my
life, the beautiful world and

913
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,720
and all of these things rather
than say woo woo or whatever it

914
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,640
is, I would say Yahoo, you know,
fine.

915
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:19,480
We have people realizing that we
have a great teaching and a

916
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,640
great culture that that can
change all our maladies into

917
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,000
melodies, you know, right.
We don't have to depend on on

918
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,720
something that one person
create, you know, yoga,

919
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,920
Ayurveda, these great Indian
traditions and teachings were

920
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,920
created by one person.
Nobody takes credit for it.

921
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,320
In fact, it's not mine.
I'm just delivering it.

922
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,240
I'm trying to explain it in a
way that it's, you know,

923
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,680
hopefully more palatable to more
and more people.

924
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,440
But the proof is in the puddock.
India produces Saints like a

925
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,520
factory.
America produces cars at the

926
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,040
like a factory.
And So what do you want to

927
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,520
produce?
Do you want to become a computer

928
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,920
chute or do you want to become,
you know, an eternal soul and

929
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,960
breathe?
So my, I, I did want to say that

930
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,680
this, this has been such an
amazing discussion and it's such

931
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,600
a gift to be connected to you.
The title of the show is

932
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,400
Untether Your Life.
And so as we talk about, you

933
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,760
know, that's about breaking free
of templates on a wide variety

934
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,640
of levels, whether it's managing
your health and Wellness, your

935
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,560
career, your relationships.
One thing I always ask my guests

936
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,360
is based on your experience, how
would you tell the listener

937
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,880
about what they can do to
untether their life?

938
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,360
Well, that's a great question.
Thank you for for asking it.

939
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,400
And now we can tie it into the
the great title of your of your

940
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,520
show.
And I would say do things in the

941
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,840
most consistent way, right, that
are serving you, eliminate and

942
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:54,760
negate what is not real and not
good for you and affirm what is

943
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,560
real and what is good for you.
And you would be surprised how

944
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:05,240
many people do know what is good
for that and what is serving.

945
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,840
And so we have to do that on a
practical.

946
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,000
Sort of physical, mundane level,
you know, people, places and

947
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,320
things.
Do your spring cleaning and

948
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:20,240
negate, move out and substitute
these people and places and

949
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,080
things with things that do
support your untethered soul.

950
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,520
Your path to liberation,
liberation, enlightenment is

951
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,480
real.
It is something that can be

952
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,800
attained in one life.
OK, I live that very Americana

953
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,280
life.
It's a kid born here.

954
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,960
So I said drugs, junk food and
sitcoms.

955
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:50,400
And by the grace of God and the
great teachings of gurus, I have

956
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,240
evolved and change and in my
process continues and this

957
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,360
divine life becomes more and
more real.

958
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:03,720
And I'm so again, negate what is
not real and what is not

959
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:09,440
supportive to your life and
affirm and focus on and mentally

960
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,320
you equally have to do this.
So externally you're clean the

961
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,880
house, you're cleaning up your
spring cleaning, But then you

962
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,120
got to clean the, the storehouse
of your thoughts and go through

963
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,520
there.
And if you're, you know,

964
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,600
repeating negative things there
and impressing your mind with,

965
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,240
you know, so we have to be
careful.

966
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,920
If you're eating well, great.
But now start eating well up

967
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,800
here and take in those good
impressions and that's really

968
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,480
the next step.
And it's the balance to outer

969
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,680
life and in your.
Absolutely.

970
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,360
Very well said.
Thank you so much.

971
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,200
So Moss, if people want to find
out more about you, about the

972
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,520
Dancing Shiva school, about more
life, where can they find you?

973
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:58,520
Dancing shiva.com and my direct
e-mail is

974
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:03,600
mossmas@dancingshiva.com.
You can check out more Life

975
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:09,000
Market for our products and we
have a great support staff that

976
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,400
really helps us to get this
wisdom out there.

977
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,400
And again, I take no credit for
it.

978
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,600
It is not mine.
I'm merely an instrument.

979
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,880
I'm a messenger and I'm here to
be and continue to be best

980
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,680
ambassador possible for India,
for the East, in the West, for

981
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:34,200
yoga and Ayurveda in their whole
integrative, holistic form.

982
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,280
Look forward to connecting with
anyone and I'm on Twitter, Mas,

983
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,600
Videl, Mahesh, Ananda, Facebook
and all those other things.

984
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,000
I'm less on social media, but if
there's one that I enjoy a

985
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,680
little bit more, I find it's a
little bit cleaner and pure as

986
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,200
the the Twitter platform e-mail.
Or Instagram though, right you

987
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,600
that that's how you and I
connected so you want to drop?

988
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,800
It's a bit I do, Chuck.
Yeah, thank you.

989
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,560
So that's I do, Chuck.
Mas, thank you so much.

990
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,120
I am so great, as I mentioned,
for having crossed paths with

991
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,280
you.
I mean, the wisdom, the light

992
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,520
you bring, I think is people
really need to open their eyes,

993
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,960
ears, and more importantly,
their hearts to absorb a lot of

994
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,320
the teachings that you've made
so accessible.

995
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Thank you so much for sharing
your time and your heart and

996
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,880
your soul with us.
And we look forward to future

997
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,160
discussion and collaboration on
many other fronts.

998
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:28,080
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening,

999
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,720
and I hope you enjoyed that
episode.

1000
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,920
For more of these types of
conversations, please visit us

1001
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,480
at untetheryourlife.co.
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1002
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,600
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1003
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,640
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1004
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Life.
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1005
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,560
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1006
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,080
who might also benefit.
Thanks, and until the next time

1007
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,960
we meet, stay untethered.