57: Natasha Levinger - Author, Healing Your Inner Child; Host, Getting to Know Woo Podcast: Intuition, Inner Child Work, Energy Healing

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What are chakras and how can
better understanding them help

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us to optimize our physical and
emotional well-being.

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How can engaging in a more
supportive and nurturing forces

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punitive and scolding dialogue
with our inner child, help us

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better manage our challenges
such as addiction to Sugar

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social media and other vices.
And what is the getting to know?

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Woo, podcast despite the comical
title, can it provides serious

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benefit to?
Those seeking help for their

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trauma, be on medication, and
cognitive behavioral therapy.

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Stay tuned.
As we touch on these and many

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other topics on this week's
episode of untether your life.

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Welcome to untether your life,
show that empowers you to own

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your own health and break free
of templates for managing

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physical and mental wellness.
And looks at Key issues,

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impacting the South Asian
diaspora.

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I am your host to kill torsa car
and I'm passionate about the

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power of conversation to
catalyze change on this show.

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I often encourage you to look
Beyond traditional modalities

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for managing your physical and
mental Wellness.

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What does that actually mean,
though?

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It's a very Broad Statement.
But intuition inner child, work

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and energy.
Healing are some of the

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Essential Elements of this
holistic approach this week's

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guest Natasha levinger is
well-versed in all of this and

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then some based in Asheville
North Carolina.

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She is a professional intuitive
reader energy healer and inner

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child healing expert through her
practice, highest light healing,

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she teaches classes and
workshops delivers meditations

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and much more Natasha writes, a
monthly column called The Energy

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report for the leading Wellness
lifestyle.

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Site Mind Body green is the
co-host of the podcast getting

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to know.
Whoo and her book healing your

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inner child comes out in April
2023.

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And with that, let's get
untethered.

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So Natasha I wanted to thank you
for for joining us today.

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Yeah, thanks for having me when
we start.

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Maybe you can just tell me a
little bit about highest like

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healing and sort of what that's
all about in the services you

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offer.
Yeah, so I mean, I guess I'll

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first just talk about energy
healing itself which is part of

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My work, and it is a very broad
term because there are so many

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like a lot of things within the
woo world.

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So to speak, it has a very broad
definition.

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So a lot of people will really
don't understand fully what it

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means.
Like psychic can mean so many

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different things and same with
energy healing.

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So the kind of energy healing
that I do is really grounded in

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practical ways to help people to
know themselves better to hear

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they're into Ocean better to
know what they know so to speak

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and it's a way of clearing out
your energy knowing your

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boundaries being again like I
said being more clear about who

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you are in the world and I found
this kind of energy healing

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about 20 years ago.
And I happened to I've always

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been drawn to energy healing,
but I started taking classes in

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it and I noticed immediately,
how much better I felt Much more

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clear.
I was how I was able essentially

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part of what I do is clearing
out the beliefs underneath.

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Why other people bring in that
energy identify the core wounds

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underneath whatever is going on
in whatever.

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The problem is that people are
having and then from there you

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can learn to know what your next
steps are.

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So for me, I was having a lot of
responsibility beliefs where I

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felt like I had to To take care
of other people.

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Or I didn't really know who I
was, unless I was attaching

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myself to somebody else.
So once I had more of my energy

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back, I was able to really deal
with what was going on with me.

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And I was more able to detach
from that relationship in

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particular part of the work that
I do, the reason why I got into

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inner child, healing as well.
Was that when I started to work

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with people I almost always like
99% of the time, we'll see the

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inner child as being under.
The whatever the issue is.

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So if you're having a
relationship problem or you are

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feeling confused or unsure about
next steps, there's almost

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always an inner child in some
form underneath that, that need

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something from you.
So once I became more aware of

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my own inner child in, you have
we all have many inner child

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basis and parts.
Then I was able to know myself

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better.
Which helped me to become more

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clear about when I needed it.
Wanted in general.

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So with highest light healing
part of what I do is work with

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people one-on-one, to help them
with whatever is coming up for

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themselves in general.
It seems like a lot of the

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people I work with want to be
more clear about their next

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steps or who they are.
In general, what they need in

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general.
They want to hear their

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intuition and then I also have
meditations.

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I have an energy healing class
in inner child class as well.

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I hope people will lot with
Girls, when they get activated,

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when things come up in their
life, how to deal with that, all

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of that is helped a lot by
knowing your energy better and

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knowing energy, healing tools to
help you get to the next step of

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growth and help.
You also just feel more

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compassionate towards yourself
and allow whatever is coming up

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to come up.
The more you have of yourself.

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So to speak, the more you're
resilient, you are to be able to

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handle whatever.
Coming up.

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What are some common problems
that you're seeing?

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That people are coming to your
with?

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Like, in addition to
relationships, there's obviously

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the brain-body connection,
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If you have anxiety, then you're
going to have insomnia, you're

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going to have high blood
pressure, just curious like in

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terms of physical and some of
the mental issues that people

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are coming to you with if you
could talk a little bit about

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that.
I mean, I always preface this by

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saying I'm not a doctor but I
have had, there's a wide range.

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Like, I've had people who've had
Strange or unusual skin rash

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that were able to be cleared
through more understanding about

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what the connection is.
Again, I do want to preface it

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by saying, I am not anti
medical, or I would never tell

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somebody.
Don't go to a doctor to get that

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fixed, but a lot of times people
will come to me if they've

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already been to the doctor, and
it's not working.

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But yeah, I mean, that actually
has been healed by energy

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healing when I do the readings.
I separate our energy

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afterwards.
Is to make sure that I'm very

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adamant about boundaries that
I'm not taking on their energy.

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They're not taking online.
So I often will forget the

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specifics of what happened in
the session, but yeah, I've had

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people come to me with chronic
fatigue and of course I mean

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depression anxiety is a very
common reason that people will

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come to me just to step back a
little bit because energy,

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healing, I think is such a broad
topic, right?

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But yeah, one topic that comes
up a lot.

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Chakras.
And you have this amazing

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meditation about clearing
chakras.

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Yeah.
And I think it's something that

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would really benefit people
because the frustration I have

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with Healthcare again, I'm like,
you, I mean I'm not against

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medication but the frustration I
have is this binary approach

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about, you know, six verses well
and this piecemeal this this

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artificial distinctions and
compartmentalization of the

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human body, you know I have a
kidney problem or I have a heart

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problem.
Mm.

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But chakras are so important
because a lot of times that's

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where you store your trauma.
Could you tell us a little bit

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more about chakras and sort of
the room?

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Yeah, I'm glad you brought that
up because that is actually how

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I work with energy healing.
So, there's other modes of

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energy, healing like Reiki, for
instance, is the one most people

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are familiar with, but how I
work is chakra based.

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So, I look at the energy stored
in the chakras through either

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seeing pictures or getting Just
having a knowing of when I look

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at the chakras.
What trauma is stored in them?

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What pictures are there?
What?

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Beliefs are there?
Whatever is being held.

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But the chakras themselves are
there basically, they're

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vortexes of energy, there's
many, many ones.

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But there are seven main ones in
our body, the first five are

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actually a connected to the
spine.

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So energetically, they are
attached to your body, your

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physical body, as well.
All those ones are, but we also

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have chakras in our feet.
Anyway, they're little energy

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centers that, like you said, we
collect emotions and feelings in

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them.
And depending on each one, it

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has a center.
So, for instance, your fifth

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chakra is in your throat, and
that's expression has to do with

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the events around expression,
there's the heart chakra, which

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is obvious.
The solar plexus is about power

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and control and will and also
just self power.

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So, there's different topics.
So, to speak with each one and

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the root chakra, as you
mentioned is around survival,

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you can get a lot of
information.

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Also by clearing out your
chakras because like you said,

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that's where we hold a lot of
energy.

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So, the chakra healing
meditation is really helpful

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because even if you can't see or
know what energy is being

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released when you do it, it's
still leaving.

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It's just having the intention
to clear it out.

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Not everybody is so in touch
with their energy.

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But it's still happening.
Even if you don't feel lighter,

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I will say the number one thing.
People say to me after a session

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is that they feel lighter.
And that's just because the

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energy is what they don't need
is leaving.

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One of the main titles that you
have is that inner child

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experts.
So could you talk a little bit

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more about inner child, trauma,
and sort of how that plays into

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the whole healing process?
Yeah, so essentially the inner

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child is a part of Ourselves
that has to that stayed stuck in

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an event.
They're staying this part of us

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which you obviously, you can't
see physically but is very much

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there energetically is in stuck
in a past time event.

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And so you don't even have to
know or remember much of your

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childhood to be able to heal it.
And that's something I love

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about inner child work because
they will show up via triggers

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or strong.
I'm feelings that you're having

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and if you can learn to grow
this, why self the inner adult

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to be the loudest voice in your
head?

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Then you can help these past
Parts, these past inner, child

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Parts, Kind of Rescue them to
integrate them into your system

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because when they're not
integrated it we get more thrown

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off of Center.
When something will come up,

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until you got in an argument
with a friend, and you feel very

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upset.
Abandoned and it's just, you get

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lost in that feeling.
You feel extremely Amanda, you

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can't get back to Center, you
feel, you know, ruins your day

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kind of thing.
So then you can learn to Center

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yourself, bring in self
compassion and speak to that.

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Part of you, that is feeling
really abandoned likely.

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It's a very, very young part of
yourself, and when that part

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feels safe with you, then it can
be integrated.

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So then the next time that you
feel hurt from a friend or That

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maybe some abandonment gets
triggered.

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It doesn't overtake you as much
because you have that feeling of

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safety, it's more integrated
energetically essentially, the

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more you're bringing your
present, self present, loving

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self to the past, the Lester,
ruled by the past because that

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part of you gets the message.
Oh, this isn't happening

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anymore, I'm actually not in the
past.

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It really is like you go back
into the past without having a

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visual component.
On it, but it really will feel

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like it.
And so, the more you're bringing

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your present self into it.
The less you will do that.

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So I explored it a little bit,
not obviously the detail that

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you have, but when any
discussions I've had like, for

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instance, I have a really bad
Sweet Tooth.

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Like I just been a chocoholic
and I just can't get none.

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I can't get enough of this stuff
even though I know what it's

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going to do to me the next day.
In terms of not, just wait, but

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just in terms of cloudiness and
things like that.

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And I did talk to somebody Who
works in energy, healing.

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And they had said that that
stems from some inner child

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trauma or was basically like,
you know, as a kid it was just

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basically like you're told, you
know, this is bad, this is bad.

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And so it's stifled.
So I wanted to maybe if you

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could talk a little bit more
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trauma might play out in terms
of things like addiction, not

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just to like chocolate per se
but technology or validation or

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Maybe if you need to go into

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that a little bit more.
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If you have an inner child part,
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shamed, essentially for having
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associated with that with being
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It's that, as you have noticed,
it's going to live with you,

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that if that doesn't get
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you were a child, and in fact,
if it was reinforced, that it

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was bad, that's still.
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from that part of yourself.
What's going on here?

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I want to know more about what
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So you could next time you want
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you've moralized it in this
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bad if you have it as opposed to
okay, knowing you know what, I

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don't feel good the next day
after I have this.

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So I don't want to be doing
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like and ask it.
What's going on for you right

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now?
Seems like, maybe, what might

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come up, is this feeling like
they have to steal, it lets part

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of you has to steal it or get
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this part of, you know, you know
what, we're not back at home

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That's not what's happening.

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So it doesn't feel like

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something you're trying trying
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just are taken over by.
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you it's almost like you have
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Healing is like pressing pause
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what's going on because think
about a lot of times when you

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feel this compunction to indulge
in chocolate it's because you're

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stressed out and you know, I
think it seems like that would

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be helpful is to just take a
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meditation.
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the situation is different,
right?

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It's not that Energy, healing
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It's just building up awareness
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Healing modality is to build up
that loving inner parent which

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will pause which brings a
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awareness.
And that's always the first step

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with any kind of growth is
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spiritual growth.
I believe is, you know, you

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can't change what, you're not
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Up is to pause and see what's
going on and even building up

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resilience for changing a habit.
Unless it's really a deadly

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happen, like, you know, drug
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to be eliminated or changed
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But first just bringing this
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So if you can pause a little bit
before it lets say you have

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chocolate, if that's something
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The next day to have that
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coming up?
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inner child first, just you
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Like, I'm not saying you can't
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Well, you can have it.
But first, I want to just talk

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to you for a second and see
what's coming up for you.

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And then if you still want to
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The more you have that trust,
the more able you are to make

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more changes.
Because right now that part of

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you thinks is merged with your
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Actually, you are merged with
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of you thinks they have to get
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Way with it.
And they don't really trust that

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you will let them have it at
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a good time or that they're not
shameful for having it so

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changing that Dynamic first will
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Do you see a lot of people who
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fiction?
I mean, yeah.

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Food is is a big one.
I haven't had a lot of people

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with more serious addictions,
but I do have a, I am a believer

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and intuitive eating.
I'll just fold disclosure.

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I'm Anti Diet culture.
So it's not that I'm like oh

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you're bad if you are wanting to
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But I am a big proponent in
listening to yourself and

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Building self trust and a lot of
diet stuff is restrictive and

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and of course sometimes you need
to restrict sometimes if you

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have diabetes or some or high
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you're going to have to do that.
But the more that you are doing

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it from a place of understanding
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the The longer term you're going
to be able to sustain something

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like that and when it is for
other reasons than it can be

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hard to build up self-trust and
be doing that at the same time.

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I'm like you I mean I I'm not

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Anti Diet culture but it just
seems like a lot of these

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programs like Overeaters
Anonymous sometimes because

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you're attaching such a stigma
to a lot of these things that

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you've loved for so long.
It can backfire and a lot of

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times that your body will
respond right selling Overeaters

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Anonymous, I'll just interrupt
you isn't a diet that actually

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is a pro.
I'm not totally familiar with it

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but that's a program to help
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to food.
So I'm talking more about

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restrictive diets like Weight
Watchers or something like that

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where especially women have been
really given the message that

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they are only worthy and people
in general though if they are

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thin which is not true because
you know, healthy people can Be

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fat, healthy people can be thin
unhealthy people can be thin.

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So, anyway, it's a whole thing.
But, yeah, I mean, I was just

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choosing that one arbitrarily,
but I'm just saying, like, a lot

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of these things that we talked
about like calorie counting, and

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things like that.
Yeah, because you're vilifying

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something that also gives you
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I think it's sending your body
makes signals 90 from for me,

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like, when I tried to just go
cold turkey, with chocolate and

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then my wife and I went out for
our anniversary, I had my

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favorite which is creme brulee,
and I was like pretty Watch out

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of commission for the whole
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So I think it is really
important to listen to your

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body.
Not make these bogey men that

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your body is going to respond in
turn and just happens.

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Completely break down.
If you do it now you know,

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falling off the wagon.
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Well we could talk a lot about
culture but I won't but it

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basically is a shaming.
There's a lot of morality with

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food and an inner child terms
that is shaming your inner child

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for different kinds of Foods,
whatever it is for you.

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And again I'm not saying that
there aren't, of course there's

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times when you have to restrict
for health reasons.

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But yeah there's just it's a
little very loaded topic, that's

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for sure.
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And again again like with
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Beyond.
It's like I said before it's

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like food and for me the other
one is technology and social

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media, just trying to keep those
things in check because these

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companies, their multi-billion
dollar companies that literally

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have phds and scientists, Yeah,
we're creating these programs to

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short-circuit your dopamine
experience and everything like

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that and I do too.
You know, that's something that

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I have to bring more
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with my phone.
It is especially handling, you

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know, growing up with a
narcissist and healing from

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narcissistic abuse.
I actually think of Instagram

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and Facebook and all of that.
Is it brings out a it's like a

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narcissist.
That is a narcissist magnet.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean it's wanting you

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know, getting validation them
taking it away and then a

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changing the algorithm.
So that you're coming back to

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get approval which is a big
Dynamic and narcissist abuse.

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But so it is like, it's ripe for
all of our very human desires

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for validation.
Yeah, it's really tricky, it's

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an interesting segue because I
didn't want to talk about your

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Instagram feed, which you have
some amazing content that some

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of the topics you talk about.
Like intuition, I think is a

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really big one.
And one of the things I was

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interested in because I've dealt
with inner child trauma and

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growing up with narcissistic
influences, just curious.

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I mean, like, what do you tell
people who want to trust their

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intuition?
Because obviously, that is going

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to lead you to the right path?
A lot of times.

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But there is this once, bitten
twice, shy mentality.

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Because there's this, when you
had the inner child of stifled

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or stymied, there's this sense.
Like you just don't want to go

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down that path.
How would you encourage people

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who have gone through this?
This to trust their intuition.

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My understanding is just with
intuition is just something

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that, obviously, you can't go
blindly and trust your intuition

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on everything.
But I think, if you want to get

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the best results, if you want to
really invest your energy than

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you need to follow that
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children of the ones with the
strongest intuition, because

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they haven't been beaten down
yet because they haven't faced

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those consequences.
So, that's the time when

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intuition strongest, but you
have somebody who's gone through

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a lot of that trauma.
Going to be sort of cut off, you

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know, that intuition.
So how do you encourage people

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who have gone through something
narcissistic?

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Abuse having Junior, child,
stymied to trust their intuition

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again.
Well, so it's a lot of what I've

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already talked about in terms of
building up trust and getting to

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know the difference between
feeling impulsive and fear and

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being merged with your inner
child and having more of that

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connection to self where you are
hearing your Highest information

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when your nervous system is
really activated.

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It is very hard to hear your
intuition.

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So if a lot of times, I will get
the question, what is the

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difference between fear and
intuition?

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And if you are in the middle of
your fear, like I said, it's

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very hard to hear.
It is likely not your intuition.

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If you're feeling calm and
you're getting information,

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like, don't go down that street.
That's a good indication.

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That that's your highest self,
that's your intuition.

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I agree with you though.
It is a good point that every

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feeling of intuition isn't
always correct, but the more

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that you are paying attention to
like a lot of times I will help

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people to trust their intuition
just by starting to trust the

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tiniest decisions.
They make, if somebody is very

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used to doubting themselves
because of a childhood, like you

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mentioned, I will just ask them
to notice every decision they

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make that they are aware of.
If so what you want for

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breakfast is that like you know
if you notice oh I definitely

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want oatmeal, I know that notice
that and really valid a oh I

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what does that feel like okay.
I do know what that feels like.

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I know I need to brush my teeth.
It may sound funny but that's is

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you listening to your
information.

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It is very small things,
sometimes people feel like

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intuition is like some magical
thing that people hear from, you

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know, a voice comes down from
the heavens or something.

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But It really isn't, it's
quieter.

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But the more you are used to
what it feels like to trust

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yourself as you build up that
self-trust, that's what your

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intuition is, and it doesn't eat
and the more you will get

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comfortable even doubting it,
the more confident you are.

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Actually, the more you can know
what it feels like to be like,

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well, hmm.
The more confident, you will

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feel doubting it if that makes
sense like I feel okay asking

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myself?
Well, do I really feel that

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whereas, before when I wasn't
Not as connected to myself, it

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would throw me into a loop.
I don't know if I should trust

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myself, I don't know.
Do I feel that?

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I'm confused where as now
because I have a greater sense

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of self, I can be calmer about
it and say like hmm let me check

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that out and see if it is what I
want to do or I can give it some

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time.
It doesn't have the urgency

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behind it.
It sounds like they're can also

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sometimes be an extreme of that.
You talked about this on your

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feet is hyper-vigilance.
Could you talk a little bit more

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about that like maybe getting
too focused?

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Hyper-vigilance again, when you
come from any kind of trauma but

451
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,900
a lot of times it is with
narcissistic parents, you will

452
00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:19,000
have a part of you that
developed as a child, that had

453
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,400
to be hyper focused on the
adults around you and read them.

454
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,600
So to speak in order to be safe
for instance.

455
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In my case, my mom was often
very angry and would explode.

456
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,500
And there were ways that I knew
I could avoid that.

457
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:40,000
And so as a child, I had to very
quickly Lee figure out how do I

458
00:25:40,008 --> 00:25:42,600
behave?
So that she doesn't get angry.

459
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,000
And then once I wasn't in her
home anymore, I still had that

460
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000
part of me, that felt, oh my
God.

461
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,600
In order for me to be safe, I
have to figure out what is this

462
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,800
person thinking, or what does
that person thinking.

463
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:58,700
That part of me, didn't get the
message that, oh, wait, no, no.

464
00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:02,300
Other people can't determine
your survival like they could

465
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:06,700
have when I was a child.
And also, I don't need to be

466
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,700
checking in with them.
Anyway, like, What my

467
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:14,000
information is the most
important in terms of my inner

468
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,200
sense of stability and safety.
So it's a very common part that

469
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,100
I see that in so many people and
it is the I would say it's the

470
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,300
hardest inner child part because
it needs to heal.

471
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:30,100
I would say because it really
needs the reminder in the

472
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:33,000
beginning very frequently and
then sometimes not in the

473
00:26:33,008 --> 00:26:34,900
beginning.
I still deal with that.

474
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:39,400
Part of me that after really let
know Oh wait, you're safe,

475
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,100
you're safe.
It's not.

476
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,000
Don't need to read the room.
I think you mentioned something.

477
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,700
Sometimes people can experience
like emotional flashbacks where

478
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,700
it's almost like they're
experiencing a lot of those bad

479
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,600
feelings even though there's
nothing necessarily triggering

480
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000
it.
Yeah, well that comes emotional.

481
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,500
Flashbacks is from this great
book called, see PTSD from the

482
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:03,600
surviving to thriving this
therapist Pete Walker but that

483
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,300
is was really revelatory for me
because it yeah, you can just

484
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:12,300
Feel of fissile if you had a gem
in energy terms, if you had a

485
00:27:12,308 --> 00:27:15,800
general feeling in your house
of, I don't know, like

486
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,900
abandonment or depression or
have this just a heaviness or

487
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:24,400
whatever it was like maybe it
was hyper feeling of intense

488
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:28,600
activation all the time
sometimes that can just show up

489
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,100
in your system seemingly out of
nowhere it can have a source

490
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:35,800
where if you get in an argument
or something like that I don't

491
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,600
know.
Depending on what it was for you

492
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,400
getting cut off.
Off in traffic or some, it can

493
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,900
appear where you just like back
in that moment and you feel it,

494
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,600
emotionally and yeah, inner
child killing again, can help

495
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600
with that.
The more that you're

496
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,700
establishing this presence of
safety within, tell me a little

497
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:57,300
bit more about podcast.
If you could yeah I love the

498
00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:00,200
title and just been a nutshell.
If you could just tell me more

499
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,100
about it.
Yeah, so for me, that I really

500
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:07,600
wanted to talk about woo stuff
because it has such a negative

501
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,200
connotation.
To it in association with it.

502
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,800
And in my life, as I mentioned,
it really was, those quote

503
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800
unquote will practices that
changed my life for the better.

504
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,900
I did go to therapy.
I love therapy for a lot of

505
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:24,600
people, but I have found that
not just for me, but for a lot

506
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,800
of people that talk therapy in
the beginning is super helpful.

507
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,800
That cognitive part can be very
validating to have a therapist

508
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,200
say to you like, yes, this is
what it is.

509
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,800
Yes, you had trauma.
Yes, this Opened.

510
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,300
But then the next steps with
therapy did not really help me.

511
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:47,200
Not, it didn't give me tools and
I think that is changing.

512
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,400
There are more therapist doing
other things, adding tools

513
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,000
social but things what I don't
like is that things like energy.

514
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Healing have been written off as
not being helpful or it's just

515
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,100
for the special few.
You have to be gifted and also

516
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:04,200
pseudoscience, which is really
ridiculous, you know, because

517
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,500
it's so powerful.
Yeah, so yes it was really The

518
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:12,000
energy healing tools and the
inner child tools.

519
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,100
That help me to make real true
changes to bring me happiness.

520
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:21,600
To make me feel more self-love
and secure and all of that

521
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,500
stuff.
It really changed my life and

522
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:27,500
I've seen it change many, many
people's lives and it's not just

523
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,800
those tools but we talked to
people like astrologers and

524
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
people who do meditation, we
talk to a lot of different

525
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:36,700
experts the holistic approach.
Basically.

526
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,200
Yeah.
And there's something called

527
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,900
human design and the any of G
stuff like that.

528
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:46,900
That I think are all very
helpful and can only help the

529
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,400
journey.
And so I'm pretty passionate

530
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,500
about getting the word out that
these things can help and they

531
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,000
don't have to be something
you're ashamed or embarrassed to

532
00:29:56,008 --> 00:29:59,300
admit that you do it.
Really helpful.

533
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,700
So that's what we talked about
on the podcast, just how it

534
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,900
affects our day-to-day life.
And if we don't have a guest, I

535
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:09,900
take a particular topic and talk
about like Gasps lightning or we

536
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:13,500
even talked about death in the
first episode and how energy

537
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,700
healing and inner child's work
can help process and deal with

538
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:19,700
all of these different topics.
Yeah.

539
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:22,800
And as I said earlier, I mean, I
think just from the title and

540
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,900
just the tone you guys have.
I think it's great because there

541
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,100
are people who are sort of on
the fence.

542
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,800
They're like, oh, you know, I
had a cousin who had some good

543
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,000
results, but they're like and,
you know, they're a little bit,

544
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:35,900
it's a little too out there for
them.

545
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,900
So I think the fact that you're
calling it would just kind of It

546
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,700
seems like a tongue-in-cheek,
your kind of acknowledging that

547
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,400
there is a little bit of
skepticism out there really.

548
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,200
Yeah.
There's a lot of skepticism and

549
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,200
we we talked about it with humor
and again, I'm not trying to

550
00:30:49,208 --> 00:30:54,500
convert anybody but I do love
helping people and I think it's

551
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,900
a real shame that people
wouldn't find these kind of

552
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,700
tools because of the prejudice
against it.

553
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:03,000
Yeah.
And as you said earlier, I mean,

554
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000
I think therapy and medication
to an extent.

555
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
I mean therapy, can these things
definitely Their place.

556
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,700
But if you just limit yourself
to the tried and true, if you

557
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:15,600
just go by the book, then you
really doing yourself a

558
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,600
disservice and I mean and I'm
like you I mean I'm not here to

559
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,300
get drag anyone Kicking and
Screaming to start doing

560
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,900
breathwork and meditation.
It's helped me immensely.

561
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,100
People have to be in the right
place to receive it, but I think

562
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,800
through these kinds of
conversations and just awareness

563
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,500
and it'll help, at least have
more constructive dialogues than

564
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:38,700
sort of having this Us Versus
Them approach, which Does nobody

565
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,400
any good?
Yeah, and I think a lot of

566
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,500
people again, I am Pro therapy,
if it works, it's great.

567
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:46,800
But I think a lot of times
people get turned off by

568
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,900
therapy, if they can't find
somebody that they relate to and

569
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:55,200
that's also true of course, with
working like with somebody like

570
00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,400
me, but even if you don't fully
resonate with the person that

571
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,300
you're working with, There's You
Come Away with tools or you come

572
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,500
away with like with breath work.
For instance it was a good

573
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:10,700
example if Don't love your
breath work practitioner.

574
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:15,900
That's not going to affect the
tools that you learned and doing

575
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,200
the breath work as much as it
does with the therapist, you

576
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,500
know, where you really do have
to align with them.

577
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,000
And they have to you have to
build this trust and you have to

578
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,800
get them.
And I mean that's really

579
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,700
important with therapy.
So there are what you know, you

580
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:33,400
can still learn the tools in a
variety of ways without having

581
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,500
to test so many different, you
know, go through whole thing.

582
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:38,900
So if people want to get a hold
of you, if People want to learn

583
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:40,700
more about your services
Natasha.

584
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,700
What is what's the best way to
reach out to you?

585
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:45,800
Yeah, you can just go to my
website, highest light,

586
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,500
healing.com, you can find out
how to schedule a session with

587
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,300
me.
And I work with people and

588
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:55,200
3-month packages or one-on-one
and on my meditations and

589
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,200
workbook.
Everything's on there.

590
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,300
And you can also sign up for my
newsletter, which is free.

591
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,000
And that's where you get the
meditation that you talked

592
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
about, as well as two other
meditations.

593
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,200
So, that's a good way to keep in
touch.

594
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,100
And also my book healing, your
inner child is available for

595
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:16,000
pre-order now on Amazon so it
doesn't come out till April but

596
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,100
if you want to preorder it, that
would be great.

597
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:22,200
And I go into much detail about
healing your inner child, as

598
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,200
well as energy.
Healing, it's all both my whole

599
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,900
process and I think a lot of
examples personally and with my

600
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:33,100
clients are in their awesome and
you're on Instagram to write

601
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:39,400
High esteem as well.
Highest like healing, So the

602
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Tasha thanks so much for
joining.

603
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,600
It was a real pleasure speaking
to you.

604
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,600
And we will have to stay
connected with you and see how

605
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600
your updates on your podcast and
your Instagram.

606
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:48,900
Thanks so much.
Thank you.

607
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:53,800
Thanks so much.
Thanks so much for listening and

608
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,800
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