64: Julian Guderley - Legacy Coach & Podcast Host on Empowering Mission-Driven Entrepreneurs

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If, as Charlemagne said, to know
another language is to possess a

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second soul, what does that mean
for someone who speaks 5

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languages and has visited 60
plus countries?

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Haven't done the math, but
that's a whole lot of soul.

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What is the mission of the Green
Planet Blue Planet podcast?

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How does it make us better
appreciate the symbiotic and

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synergistic relationship we as
humans have with animals, plants

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and innumerable other members of
the global ecosystem?

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And how can CE O's, Co O's, and
founders at 7 figure businesses

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immerse themselves in retreats
in places like Tulum, Mexico to

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fully grasp the concepts of
synthesis and community, to

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refine their compass and home in
on their true north?

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Stay tuned as we touch on these
and many other topics on this

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week's episode of Untether Your
Life.

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Welcome to Untether Your Life, a
show that empowers you to own

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your own health and break free
of templates for managing

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physical and mental Wellness,
and looks at key issues

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impacting the South Asian
diaspora.

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I am your host, Nikhil Torsakar,
and I'm passionate about the

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power of conversation to
catalyze change.

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We're living in unprecedented
times in which the standard

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cookie cutter approaches to
problem solving leadership just

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won't cut it.
The mission of this podcast is

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to rip up those templates and
speak with innovators and

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entrepreneurs who understand the
importance of breath work,

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communing with nature's and
quote bringing our superpowers

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online.
Julian Guterlei exemplifies this

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type of change maker, which is
why I was so excited to speak

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with him on this week's episode
of the podcast.

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Julian is a legacy coach for
founders.

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His mission is to help clients
unlock their full potential to

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become more effective leaders
who create positive impact with

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heart.
Julian's consulting and coaching

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is differentiated by a cross
disciplinary and cross cultural

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methodology that emphasizes
well-being and true wealth.

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Julian elevates the values of
determination and resilience and

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has a passion for social
innovation and connection.

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He is originally from Germany
and despite excelling in roles

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at Nike and BMW, he sought the
road less traveled which led him

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to start and operate his own
studio space in Canada and

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journey into the startup world
in Silicon Valley and Vancouver

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Island.
He also began the Green Planet

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Blue Planet Podcast, a global
top 3% podcast.

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While traveling the world since
2017, Julian has consulted and

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coached dozens of founders, CE
O's and startups to make pivots

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towards the legacy projects and
lives they had been dreaming of.

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But we're slightly out of reach.
Over the past 20 years he has

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lived on 3 continents, traveled
to 60 plus countries, and

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learned to speak 5 languages
fluently.

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And with that, let's get
untethered.

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So yeah, quite a story.
Julian and I feel like that's

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only scratching the surface, so
if there's anything else you

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want to add to your CV there, go
for it.

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My CV, that's so kind.
Thanks for sharing that.

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I mean, there's been so many
highlights and so many, so many

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amazing people that came into my
life over the last 20 years.

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You know him.
As you said, I did grow up in

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Germany, left for the first time
when I was 15, which is where I

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experienced just such a quantum
jump of of learning and stepping

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into lived experience.
And I learned Spanish and

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Portuguese.
In that exchange year, lived in

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Paraguay in South America.
And you know, this is 20 years

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ago now and I still nourish
pretty much every day, every

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week from that experience.
You know, you know, honestly, it

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allowed me to see people through
my heart more so than through my

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intellect.
Few years later, it's about 15

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years ago now.
I started to travel to India for

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the first time.
We went to go to a university

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there in Bangalore, probably
university, and then we went to

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tour through all of the larger
international companies, you

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know, like Bosch and Kingfisher
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Dell and etc.
And we were basically the German

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expats that were offered jobs in
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And it was kind of a funny month
in India because it was really

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beautiful.
I learned so much.

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But what stuck with me
personally the most was yoga and

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the three or four sessions of
yoga that were organized for us.

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And I just realized there's
something here.

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That is 100% me.
And so over the last 15 years,

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I've learned and trained with
many teachers that just were the

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right people at the time for me
to to go deep, always curious to

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know because, you know, India is
something.

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Obviously my parents are from
India and I've spent a lot of

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time there and it's, you know, I
always would roll my eyes

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because it's like going back to
see family.

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You know, I'd rather go to go to
the beach in Jamaica or go to

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some sightseeing in European
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So I'd always roll my eyes about
India.

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But what's interesting, when I
talked to a lot of people from

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the Western world, when they
talk about it, it's, you know,

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they, they have a beginner's
mindset which is so beneficial.

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So I'd love to hear more about
your overall impressions of

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India.
You know, the interesting thing

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is there's this juxtaposition
because as you alluded to,

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there's so many corporations
kind of spreading their presence

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out there.
But there's a traditions that

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spawn centuries.
Yeah, I mean, you said it's so

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well there, there, you know,
especially Bangalore and

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Karnataka as a state.
It's very much taken over by

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international companies And like
globalization, we see this

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basically anywhere in the world,
especially in what was I think

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called BRIC countries, right,
like Brazil, Russia, India,

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China that like it's become more
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And I was there the first time,
2009, so there's a long time

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ago.
What was more fascinating for

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me, though, as you as you said,
like as the the German kid

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inside of me that I grew up as,
it was the traditions, it was

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the like.
The mystical it was the the

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complexity and the craziness of
India, right?

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It's louder than anywhere else
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It's more chaotic than anywhere
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But it seems to work.
It seems to be like

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synergistically perfect, right?
I mean, there's there's a bit

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of, I remember that quite
distinctly.

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A bit of a.
Classist kind of energy going on

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at times.
But we still experience this in

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big parts of the world and we're
all just growing and reconciling

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those old wounds, right.
And coming into like I would

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call them like flat hierarchies
or like direct relating

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definitely with thick in India.
But I I also just love people.

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I mean there's so many people
and probably maybe you could get

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into trouble.
I don't know.

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I usually stay out of you know
in shady spots no matter where I

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am in the world.
I just found people so helpful.

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I found people at large being so
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remember that being like look
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Chuckle now, it was great.
And then after a few weeks, I

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was like, I think I kind of get
why for some people this is too

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chaotic of a place because it
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right?
Everything's happening all at

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once, at everywhere.
And so yeah, it's it's a it's a

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beautiful place.
We we got to travel quite a bit,

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but only in the South back then.
And yeah, as I said, like the,

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the traditional part, the
mysticism, the culture,

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Hinduism, yogis, all of that
stayed with me very deeply in

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the kind of my tissue.
And I did want to circle back

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Julian about you had touched on
this and I've heard you on some

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podcast talk about how your trip
to Paraguay when you were young

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was a very pivotal moment and it
really shaped the essence of who

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you are.
There's this beautiful quote

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that I was loved because I'm a
big fan of languages as well.

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To have another language is to
possess a second soul.

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I think it's attributed to
Charlemagne.

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And from what I gather you're
you're very passionate about

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languages as well.
So I wanted to understand more

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about sort of how that has
shaped your overall experience,

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you know, as a coach, as a
podcast host and just you know

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your your love of languages and
cultures, if you can touch on

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that a little bit.
Yeah, you're you're striking on

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such a beautiful topic here and
and I'm glad that that you, you

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share that passion with me.
You know, I don't know if it's a

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second soul, but it's definitely
an altered perspective of our

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personality of or of our
internal characters, right.

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And so.
Yeah, per language.

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You learn to speak influency and
you meet people in another part

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of your personality comes online
for sure, you know at large.

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Maybe they're all part of the
same being that that I am, but.

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I noticed it that in different
parts of the world, in different

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interactions, in different
languages, different elements or

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characteristics, kind of, you
know, come out to play and come

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out to play more.
And it has influenced everything

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in my life, especially the
coaching, right.

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I said you said it in the
beginning, it's a kind of cross

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disciplinary and cross cultural
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But when we take the perspective
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maybe French or Spanish or
German or, you know, whatever

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language it is, we suddenly
start to see that not everything

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is exactly as it is.
In this cultural context.

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But there's also beyond any
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When we talk to founders or CEOs
in our work, we often realize

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that they just like maybe in the
world we take American

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globalized English culture or,
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English culture as the.
The main pathway that at work

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that happens very often that
people get stuck in a pathway

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and they don't have the capacity
to lift their head, pivot and

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simply learn another language or
simply learn another way to say

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the same thing.
And so I believe language is

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deeply tied to culture obviously
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language.
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contextually speaking, languages
is one of the things where our

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diversity really comes to show.
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If we streamline everything into
machine like processes that are

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all happening only in English, I
think we're losing a lot of the

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beauty that's in the human
diversity and and so I noticed

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this every day with the people I
work with and.

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For me, it first showed up in
that year in Paraguay, but

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actually more so when I came
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So when I was 16, you know,
again, this is like 1920 years

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ago now.
I returned after a year of an

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exchange program in Paraguay to
Germany, went back to finish

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high school and you know, was
living with my family again for

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another two years and no one had
an understanding truly of what I

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just experienced for one full
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And you know, this is not
completely comparable to work

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culture, but in school no one
cared, even all the.

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Teachers.
All they cared for is that I

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finished this math test or I
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I don't know German essay or
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Head down, finish, check the
boxes.

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Right.
Exactly.

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But then I realized there's like
a lack of depth or a lack of

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understanding for different
contexts or circumstances.

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Now, fair enough, when I'm in
the math class to write the math

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test, my job is to do the math
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But life doesn't actually happen
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Life does happen in the nuance.
Life does happen in the

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interpersonal space, and so in
the interpersonal space, I

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believe anyone who's bilingual
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You know, a polyglotin speaks
more than three languages or

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three and more has an advantage
to be able to read different

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nuances of what's happening,
body language, maybe even

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etymology and the origin of
words if like go deeper with it

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or simply a bigger audience.
But I think somewhere there is

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where the beauty of language
starts and where it still

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applies for me every day in my
work.

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I do think you you bring up an
excellent point, Julian.

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It's just that I think in
Tahitian culture there is

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actually not a word core
unhappiness.

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It's like the closest analogue
is a slight feel, a slight

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fluish sensation, you know, And
so you think about the way

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things are expressed and the way
things are are discussed and the

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fact that there's no
conceptualization of something

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that seems so ubiquitous, you
know in in our culture in in the

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US, you know that that sort of
gives you a perspective about

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how certain cultures, how they
prioritize certain states of

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mind at things like that.
Now, I I did want to touch on

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one thing that you know, as I
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talked about one of the
connections was podcasting.

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And so your podcast is called
Green Planet, Blue Planet.

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And I'd love for you if you
could talk more about the

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podcast, just about the origin
of it, because you've been doing

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it for what's is it four years
now or?

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Five years, yeah.
Might be 5-5 years going on.

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Six years, Yeah.
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So if you could talk a little
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I mean, first of all, I love
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I love audiobooks.
I love.

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I love anything that I can
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driving or traveling.
I don't do that every single

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day.
But walking, driving or

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traveling are like.
They happen.

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They haven't weekly.
They happen monthly.

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And so I'm, I'm always equipped
with good shows or good books.

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that was kind of, you know,

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becoming a thing, I realized I
am fundamentally not excited

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about the the narrative about
where the world is going in our

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mainstream media.
And so I wanted to create

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something that allows me to have
conversations with coaches and

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authors and artists and
Indigenous people.

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People that are doing impact
work for the ocean, doing this

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for regenerative agriculture,
you name it.

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I was looking for positive or
conversations about a healthy

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planet, basically a healthy
planet and a healthy planet that

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we're making.
So because of what?

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What?
What we're doing, the impact we

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make, the investments we make,
the things we choose.

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And so I started the show called
Green Planet, Blue Planet, If

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you're listening and you don't
know of it yet, search it in

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your podcast app and hey,
subscribe.

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There's over 330 episodes out
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We publish about once a week at
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Yeah, it's actually been ranked
in like the top 3% of global

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podcasts because it's.
I've just niched in into what we

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call regeneration now and really
just have a lot of

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conversations.
This morning I recorded a call

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with a new friend.
She is from Malawi in Africa.

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And is designer and creator of
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agroforestry projects there.
And so you know, very niche, but

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for me to talk to someone in
Malawi and knowing that in that

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part of Africa there are
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happening that allow local
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You know, live a happier,
healthier and, you know, more

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prosperous life.
But it also creates a soil,

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health and healthy waterways.
That's the kind of news I wish I

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was getting rather than the news
of like, you know, another

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storm.
I mean, that's from destruction,

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yeah.
Death and destruction and you

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know doomsday about whether
earth is going cuz everything is

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polluted but also.
We're sponsored by Cocacola, so

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why don't you buy another bottle
of your corn syrup?

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Right.
And so it's it's, it's that

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frustration, original nickel
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It's like, man, the world is, is
being polluted with information

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and news.
Let me create something that is

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simply an expression of my
values just as much as an

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expression of my curiosity.
And that's why I call it Green

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Planet, Blue Planet.
Because I do believe that this

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world inherently is a healthy
planet that can continue to, you

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know, how is us humans for?
Millennia to come if we want to

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be in symbiosis with it.
And so it's a podcast and all

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things regeneration.
Totally born out of that, out of

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that curiosity, what's
interesting again going back to

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the importance of words because
you and I talked previously.

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One of you know, in addition of
the podcast, I also run a stem

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cell therapy company and it
specializes in regenerative

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medicine.
So it's interesting when, you

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know, when I had originally
talked to Katya and she told me

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about you, she said you do a
podcast about and she heard and

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she said the word regenerate.
And I immediately was like, oh,

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is this about stem cells?
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bit different.
So I was wondering if you could

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explain a little bit more to
people who might not be as well

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versed in the concept of
regeneration.

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Regeneration I believe is easily
described as first of all a

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biological phenomena, like if
you cut your finger, your cells

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grow back.
And the wound is closed

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technically, literally
regenerating cells at that

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point.
Regeneration is really also

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describing the cycle of life in
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And I think that's the part
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And really important to observe
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a cycle of life, a part of an
ecological cycle of life.

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We are not just on the top of
the food chain and here to

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dominate and squander everything
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Like you know, we can to a
degree and we have to a large

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degree, but at the end of the
day that will will lead to more

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destruction.
Because we're just going to

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pollute ourselves, our
waterways, our our soil and each

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other.
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and lots of that has already
happened, I think it's time to

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understand the bigger picture of
nature.

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And many people do, actually.
And many people have talked

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about this all along, but it's
about understanding.

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That we're in a synergistic and
symbiotic relationship with all

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of nature around us.
And so yeah, we can take certain

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resources and form and modulate
other things out of it.

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But if we do this to a degree
where we destroy the biosphere

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and where we do this to the
degree where we pollute the

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biosphere, we ultimately will
only destroy ourselves.

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And so I don't think the Earth
needs saving, and I don't even

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think humanity needs saving.
But I do believe that the future

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positive future can only happen
where we live in in alignment

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with this.
Degenerative cycle and it's

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basically an ethos of the
pathway forward.

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I would almost say it's a
movement that's happening in our

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species at this point simply
because we need to, we need to

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and we are becoming more aware
of our impact on the natural

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world on each other.
I'll give you an example really,

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really, really tactile.
Also kind of gross.

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I live on Vancouver Island since
over a decade and until two or

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three years ago all of the
sewage was dumped into the ocean

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here.
Now this is an island with about

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300,000 inhabitants.
Probably when all this was built

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in the 1960s it was a third or
less of this and so maybe maybe

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maybe back in the 60s it was
like we got sewage that's just

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putting the ocean.
Ocean is big enough now.

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Today they they've changed it.
We've built this like massive

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kind of new sewage treatment
plant here and in Vancouver it

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was a big deal.
That's why I'm.

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Telling you just get back home
and then like thinking of it.

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Yeah.
But it's it's that way of

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thinking of like oh let's just
put it back into nature because

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it will just deal with it.
That has completely become

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obsolete and completely become a
dumb way to think.

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Given on the awareness we have
through the Internet through

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real time tracking, you know
through how many people we are

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on the planet.
Now that if we are 8 billion and

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we put we live and pollute like
N Americans, we will destroy the

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planet.
I by number means believe we're

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too many people on the planet.
I think we could have.

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A bunch more on here too but we
need to live in alignment with

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the cycle of biology and and so
that is regeneration.

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That's beautifully stated
because I think that we do have

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to remember that we're we're all
part of an ecosystem and that's

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that goes for not just as human
beings but also culturally.

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And that's one of the things I
love about your focus is it's

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it's not just one specific
culture.

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You know you're truly a global
citizen.

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I think you said you have done
retreats on three different

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continents and you know travel
to 60 plus countries.

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And I think that when you have
that end to end view, I think

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you're going to make a lot more,
you know your deeper

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contributions to society.
But you're also going to you

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know enrich yourself as well in
terms of you know, in terms of

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your perspective.
You take that longer view versus

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what's delivered on your iPhone
at the current moment.

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Now the other concept that I
came across Julian, that I

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wanted to learn more about is
synthesis.

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That's something that it sounds
like that's has informed your

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your coaching and a lot of the
other work you do.

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If you could talk to me a little
bit more about that.

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I mean, synthesis is basically
the combination of forming ideas

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and knowledge into action,
right?

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So it's it's about kind of
understanding like what's the

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bottom line in my process here?
That could be the way I apply

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myself as a founder or CEO to my
work.

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It could be the way.
I make music as an artist.

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It could be the way I teach or
guide my children if I'm a

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father or a mother.
It's about understanding that

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when I combine ideas and action
steps into habits, or even new

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habits that are more effective,
I'm synthesizing from my

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potential and my capacity into
actually living and embodying

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it, right?
And so I'll give you an example.

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If you're a CEO or or a CEO or a
founder, and very often you

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might be busy or carrying
responsibility, you're carrying

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the weight or the process of
other people on your shoulder.

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But if you're actually the CEO
of a company, you're 80% of time

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should be spent.
On revenue driving activities

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for your company, because that's
how you're going to be the best

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CEO for that company.
It doesn't mean there's another

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things to do.
It doesn't mean there isn't some

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kind of people management to do,
but usually for that role, for

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that context, it's about
synthesizing all of the possible

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ideas right, Combining them and
forming actions and habits to.

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Increase personal success and
increase alignment with the

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context you're in.
Or just like if you're a parent

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who make the same metaphor of
80% of your time should be spent

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probably just an unconditionally
loving and supporting your

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children.
Doesn't mean they don't need

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boundaries and they don't need
need Nos and they don't need

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some discipline sometimes, but
probably not 80% of the time.

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And and so it's about this, it's
about really understanding how

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we take these different
requirements on us and how we

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synthesize them into what works
for us authentically.

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And in alignment with what gets
us to the world, we want to see

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in the world we want to create,
right?

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So if you're CEO, you want to
create a profitable business

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that makes a positive impact
that will take you to focus on

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that.
And if you're a father or

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mother, you want to see a
thriving child that turns into a

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kind and conscious human being,
right?

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So you gotta model that and live
that and lead like.

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That I think, yeah, leading by
example is is so important.

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I'm a father myself, you know,
with.

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We three kids.
And one of the things that I

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feel fortunate about is that
we're living in more of a

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collaborative parenting model
right now.

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Because I think I don't know how
it was in Germany, but you know,

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growing up, I think there was a
lot more of a.

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Command and control, type of
structure, you know, and now I

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think of the silver lining in
this technology thing is we're

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able to communicate with our
children in in different ways.

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Simple things like Snapchat
where you're sending funny bit

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Ogs back and forth or you know,
you're able to share funny memes

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and things like that.
I think that we can learn a lot

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from our kids and we don't have
to.

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Sort of think we have all the
answers.

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So I think it's it's good that
we're evolving into more of a a

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collaborative mindset for sure.
Yeah, well said.

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The other thing that Julie and
I, I did want to touch on, you

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had talked to somebody about
your notion of the term

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community where it's like I
think you'd said like

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communication and unity, so.
I'd like to hear more about your

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perspectives on community and
then also if you could discuss a

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little bit more of these
retreats that you host.

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I think you had hosted one
recently in February, right.

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In.
Yeah, yeah, we were in Mexico in

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October and then again in
January, beginning of February

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of 2023.
Yeah.

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Community communication in Unity
or communication into Unity.

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I believe that the human being
doesn't exist in isolation,

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meaning they can never only be
one of us and they're never also

453
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:06,150
is only just one of us.
And So what I'm trying to say

454
00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:10,790
here is that implicitly by being
a human, we are actually we're

455
00:22:10,790 --> 00:22:13,910
individuals, that's true.
But we're also communities,

456
00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:16,750
we're groups of people, we're
groups of interests, we're

457
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:20,270
family groups, we're groups at
work, we're groups for basically

458
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:21,910
anything we do.
We're groups in countries.

459
00:22:22,030 --> 00:22:25,860
And so first of all, I'd love to
just, you know, I kind of put

460
00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:29,540
that into the context of can you
simply visualize the different

461
00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:31,060
communities you're part of,
right.

462
00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:33,500
Right now?
I I live in a neighborhood where

463
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:36,700
I don't know all my neighbors,
but that doesn't mean I'm not in

464
00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:38,220
the same community as them,
right?

465
00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:41,500
We go to similar grocery stores.
We would rely on similar

466
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:45,460
processes to work for, let's say
those groceries being delivered

467
00:22:45,460 --> 00:22:48,140
or the streets staying clean or
what, whatever it may be.

468
00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:51,780
So community is always part of
how we actually live.

469
00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:54,780
What I believe takes us to the
next level with this notion

470
00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:57,300
though, when we deliberately
pick and choose these

471
00:22:57,300 --> 00:22:59,140
communities not just by
circumstance.

472
00:22:59,140 --> 00:23:01,220
If I was born here, so I was
raised here as I live in this

473
00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:03,460
place.
But when we actually realize,

474
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,100
huh.
So there is something about

475
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:10,180
community that allows me to
create more and we will use the

476
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:12,580
word impact again.
Impact in the world will create

477
00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:15,740
more, follow through in the
world will create more happiness

478
00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:18,900
or prosperity or more integrity
into the world.

479
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:22,260
And so in order to do that I
really believe we want to be

480
00:23:22,260 --> 00:23:25,540
surrounded by the right people.
There's the saying you are the

481
00:23:25,540 --> 00:23:29,140
person that you spend.
You're like a synthesis of the.

482
00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:33,180
Five people.
Yeah.

483
00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:31,340
You spend it.
Yeah.

484
00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:34,340
Jim Roan, It's a great quote.
I don't think that that's

485
00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:36,580
entirely true.
But there's a truth to the

486
00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:39,260
quote, which is the people
around us influence us.

487
00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:42,060
And even if you think you're a
total hermit and loner, believe

488
00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:45,020
me, you do live in community
because humans don't exist

489
00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:48,640
completely alone.
And so communication and to

490
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,040
unity.
Now I'm going to make a really

491
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,680
big jump here.
Community also includes all of

492
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600
the natural world.
It actually includes all of the

493
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,880
living beings on the planet,
trees, plants, animals on the

494
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,440
very big kind of level.
And the meta picture here, it's

495
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,120
about understanding what spaces
are we creating for our

496
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:07,160
community in the city we live in
and the town we live in, in the

497
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,760
natural world we live in, in the
government and the country we

498
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720
live in.
Are those really the processes

499
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,160
we want to live in?
Is there things always change?

500
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,160
So could it change for the
better?

501
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,000
How would that look?
And so I I think in 2023, you

502
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,000
know, especially after the COVID
moment and especially now with

503
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:27,640
with just ever increasing global
kind of requirements for from

504
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,540
banking to traveling, I think
it's very important that people

505
00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:34,420
stand up and say what is the
community I live in, what is the

506
00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:37,660
community that I want to live in
and how does that look and how

507
00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:41,260
am I, you know, a responsible Co
creator in that community.

508
00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:43,340
And that goes for your
neighborhood just as much As for

509
00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:46,500
like your immediate family.
When it comes to retreats, I

510
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:51,620
believe retreats and events or
you know like gatherings of of

511
00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,420
any kind actually that you can
even book a ticket to for a

512
00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:57,300
weekend or seven days.
I think it's a very powerful way

513
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:59,310
of practicing being in
community.

514
00:24:59,350 --> 00:25:02,070
You mentioned Katya, I'm shout
out to my awesome Co creator.

515
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:06,550
We host retreats several times a
year, mostly in Mexico and those

516
00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:09,070
are leadership immersions.
Those are transformational

517
00:25:09,070 --> 00:25:11,550
events where people go through
different kind of initiation

518
00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:13,990
rights that I want to tell about
all the practices.

519
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:18,150
But mostly this is really
focused on personal development

520
00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:21,270
and confronting internal
blockages and in a group

521
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:24,750
experiencing yourself overcome
that or surpass that or find a

522
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:27,880
new association with an all the
motion so so that we're not

523
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,800
defined by an emotion of the
past, but we're really able to

524
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,520
live into the vision of the
future we hold.

525
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,640
The way I would connect it to
community Nikhil is that when we

526
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,960
are witnessed by others, our
superpowers come online.

527
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,600
Now also our blind spots are
visible and seen by others.

528
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,320
And sometimes it takes us seeing
the world through someone else's

529
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,270
eyes, owning the blind spot,
transforming, and then moving

530
00:25:50,270 --> 00:25:53,230
forward and realizing, well, I
was only able to do that because

531
00:25:53,230 --> 00:25:55,590
of the support I had from this
group, because of the way that

532
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:58,230
the space was held, because of
the way I was acknowledged and

533
00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:00,950
listened to.
And so I think, bottom line,

534
00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:05,150
this is what community really
is, is is needed for is to see

535
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:09,870
and hold responsible, but also
to see and to uplift, to

536
00:26:09,870 --> 00:26:11,550
empower.
I don't know what the quote is.

537
00:26:11,670 --> 00:26:13,990
No man is an island or something
like that.

538
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:17,550
But I think that that's so true
is just that COVID really taught

539
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:20,460
us a lesson.
In that there were so many

540
00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:22,540
things that we took for granted.
A lot of these social

541
00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:25,620
connections, a lot of the, you
know, your your friends that you

542
00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:28,380
would go to happy hour with.
It's just something that was you

543
00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:30,620
know poop in the in the blink of
an eye.

544
00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:34,140
We were completely separated.
And so I think as humans we had

545
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:38,740
to adapt and find new ways of
connecting and communicating and

546
00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:40,620
and you know, I love that word
cocreating.

547
00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:43,020
I don't know what the stats are,
but it would be interesting to

548
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:46,620
see, you know, how many people
started a podcast during that

549
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:48,800
time because they were.
You know, they were home.

550
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,200
They were on lockdown.
It's like, well, let me find a

551
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,760
way to make a contribution and
also stay connected with my

552
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,360
hello man.
So yeah, I I I definitely think

553
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:58,760
that's that's an important
thing.

554
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Now I'm seeing more of a
movement towards, you know, when

555
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,720
people talk about retreats or
these a lot of these spiritual

556
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,880
movements, I I'm always
fascinated to connect with

557
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,240
people who are doing this.
But in a I I don't want to say.

558
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,840
I guess I want to be careful
with my words, but maybe.

559
00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:19,510
I guess the best way to say it
would be like a consciously

560
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:22,710
capitalist fixed approach,
meaning that you know you are

561
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:26,870
talking about yoga, breath work,
meditation, but it is with the

562
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:30,670
mindset of helping corporate
leaders improve their

563
00:27:30,670 --> 00:27:33,070
performance.
So I wanted to understand a

564
00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:36,110
little bit more about how that
ties into maybe your coaching,

565
00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:39,070
because it sounds like you do
work with a lot of people who

566
00:27:39,070 --> 00:27:42,150
are, for lack of better word,
movers and shakers in corporate

567
00:27:42,150 --> 00:27:43,110
setting.
So if you could.

568
00:27:43,490 --> 00:27:46,450
I'd love to hear more about
maybe the profile of clients

569
00:27:46,450 --> 00:27:49,850
that you work with in your
coaching and maybe some, if you

570
00:27:49,850 --> 00:27:52,810
can point to some results that
you've delivered for some of

571
00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:55,930
these individuals.
So I work specifically with

572
00:27:55,930 --> 00:28:01,130
founders, with CEOs and people
that are investors or at the

573
00:28:01,130 --> 00:28:03,770
very minimum cofounders of
either an initiative or company.

574
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:07,750
I've really horned in under that
niche because that's the people

575
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:11,230
I can best support in bringing
not just the superpowers online,

576
00:28:11,230 --> 00:28:13,790
but to overcome kind of, you
know, what's holding them back,

577
00:28:13,870 --> 00:28:17,630
but also to hone in on what you
called earlier legacy coaching.

578
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:20,190
So the idea behind legacy
coaching is it's not so much of

579
00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:24,150
A legacy of what do I leave
behind as the big personality I,

580
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:27,510
but more So what do I leave
behind or what am I building in

581
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:31,190
my lifetime that is connected to
A7 generational perspective, A

582
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:33,870
perspective that is, you know,
simply Simply put, like a

583
00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:37,150
healthy planet that we're
building for us here right now

584
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:41,110
in our prosperity as well As for
the longevity of our species in

585
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:43,310
our environment.
And So what I help people with

586
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:48,190
specifically is to overcome, you
know, scatterbrain or kind of

587
00:28:48,190 --> 00:28:51,430
like procrastination as well as
like burnout, either impedent

588
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:52,990
burnout or burnout they pass
through.

589
00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:55,830
That's kind of step one we start
with people with usually is to

590
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:58,950
to take energy levels back up
again and within you know kind

591
00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:04,250
of 90 to 100 days kind of have a
more balanced insight into how

592
00:29:04,250 --> 00:29:07,170
they're performing in their
emotional intelligence, how

593
00:29:07,170 --> 00:29:09,930
they're performing in their
intellectual kind of performance

594
00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:12,970
bracket and and also how they're
performing in them.

595
00:29:13,050 --> 00:29:15,170
You know it's it's harder to
quantify, but I call it

596
00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:17,850
spiritual insights, right.
So it's a triangle, emotional

597
00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:21,210
intelligence, spiritual insights
and intellectual performance

598
00:29:21,290 --> 00:29:23,130
that's kind of step one in our
transformation.

599
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:25,610
Usually what I do with people
specifically and what brings

600
00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:28,540
results in the way they build
companies and the way that you

601
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:32,540
know, they go from an idea over
6 to 12 to 24 months into like a

602
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:36,780
company that makes 6-7 figure
revenue is is you know a form of

603
00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:39,260
project mapping kind of where my
concept, my coaching meets

604
00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:42,660
consulting where in biweekly
rhythms I hop on with clients to

605
00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:46,460
really just map out the
continuous progress connected to

606
00:29:46,460 --> 00:29:49,500
the larger vision of what we've,
what we've come up with together

607
00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:50,740
or what they've informed me
with.

608
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:53,460
So that again, on the
intellectual performance, it's

609
00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:56,700
more so like how do I leverage
my own brain, my own power, my

610
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:59,020
own drive, right?
And the emotional intelligence

611
00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:03,100
for a founder, CEO or investor
is usually about how do I share

612
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,420
responsibility with the people
in my team?

613
00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:08,500
How do I hire smartly?
How do I have communication and

614
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,900
conversations with those people
that they feel empowered and

615
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,380
motivated?
And then on the spiritual

616
00:30:12,380 --> 00:30:15,790
inside, the easiest way to say
that is like, how often do you

617
00:30:15,790 --> 00:30:18,190
shut off all of your devices and
go out into nature?

618
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:19,910
How often do you sit in
stillness?

619
00:30:19,950 --> 00:30:21,550
How often do you breathe or
meditate?

620
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:22,910
Right.
That's the easiest way to

621
00:30:22,910 --> 00:30:24,870
quantify that.
But yeah, that's that's kind of

622
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:28,270
like a small little insight into
the kind of work I do and, you

623
00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:29,950
know, the kind of people I
support.

624
00:30:29,950 --> 00:30:32,830
And then also the outcomes of
you know, either building a

625
00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:36,150
company from scratch into six or
seven figures or building a

626
00:30:36,150 --> 00:30:38,830
company that's already at that
stage and you know, helping them

627
00:30:38,830 --> 00:30:41,710
support with the next
fundraising round or you know,

628
00:30:41,710 --> 00:30:45,230
helping them through my at this
point very vast network connect

629
00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:46,870
with the right people or the
right clients.

630
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:48,830
Yeah.
And I think that is so important

631
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:53,150
is just that impressing on
people that that stillness and

632
00:30:53,230 --> 00:30:56,430
you know just quieting the mind
I think can be so important.

633
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:59,190
In one of your podcasts, I think
you had mentioned something

634
00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:03,070
about was a rich role.
He was talking about like the 12

635
00:31:03,270 --> 00:31:05,310
hour walk or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

636
00:31:05,310 --> 00:31:09,470
I was listening to one of his
interviews, made a second 12

637
00:31:09,550 --> 00:31:11,310
hour walk.
I'll pull it up right here on my

638
00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:13,070
screen.
Yeah, 12 hour walk.

639
00:31:13,390 --> 00:31:15,750
That was one of his guests that
was calling O'brady.

640
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:17,630
I just thought it's it's a fun
idea.

641
00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:20,070
It's like literally like plan
for a 12 hour walk.

642
00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:22,110
Don't bring a cell phone.
Don't bring a friend.

643
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:23,950
Right.
So it's you can do your house,

644
00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:27,790
your door, back to your door,
but 12 hours be alone outside in

645
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:29,710
nature.
Don't make it about social time.

646
00:31:29,710 --> 00:31:31,430
Don't bring yourself.
No selfies.

647
00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:34,670
Yeah.
And and it's just because I it.

648
00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:36,510
What's interesting is there was
a study of it.

649
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:40,650
They pulled men and women.
And they gave them the choice of

650
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:44,370
either doing an hour of
meditation or I don't even think

651
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,410
it might have been less than
that, but like a certain amount

652
00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:49,450
of meditation or just being
silent with their thoughts or

653
00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:51,810
getting zapped with a bolt of
electricity.

654
00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:56,130
And I think 60% of men chose
getting zapped with a bolt of

655
00:31:56,130 --> 00:32:00,650
electricity and 25% of women's.
That's just, that's my point.

656
00:32:00,890 --> 00:32:02,410
You know, that's a sad
commentary.

657
00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:05,450
It's just like people we are so
intent on.

658
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:09,410
Numbing ourselves and sort of
insulating ourselves from a lot

659
00:32:09,410 --> 00:32:12,450
of the thoughts and the energy
in our in our head that's

660
00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:17,770
ultimately does manifest in in a
lot of not just mental physical

661
00:32:17,770 --> 00:32:20,210
problems too.
Mental, physical, emotional.

662
00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:23,130
I mean this is this is how
disease, disease gets born right

663
00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:24,810
in the body.
Look, the difference between a

664
00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:27,810
coach and a therapist is that
the therapist usually walks you

665
00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:30,690
into your inner work on the
inner world for the first time

666
00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:32,730
and that's why they stay with
you and they usually just a

667
00:32:32,730 --> 00:32:35,410
sounding board.
As a coach, a high performance

668
00:32:35,410 --> 00:32:38,930
coach, especially a legacy
coach, my work is to make sure

669
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:41,770
that you know the the
hemispheres of your inner work

670
00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:45,250
are actually happening.
But the real work is in carrying

671
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:47,730
that forward into external
results, right?

672
00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:50,970
Because we want to basically
create a foundation of inner

673
00:32:50,970 --> 00:32:54,170
work that then leads into
external results on the way we

674
00:32:54,170 --> 00:32:57,210
perform in business and families
and in our communities.

675
00:32:57,290 --> 00:32:59,850
But it always starts with the
inner work, because the inner

676
00:32:59,850 --> 00:33:03,770
work means we can sit with our
thoughts, we can be at peace,

677
00:33:03,770 --> 00:33:06,410
even though maybe we didn't like
what someone else did.

678
00:33:06,410 --> 00:33:10,970
Or we we have that capacity to
choose silence, even though it

679
00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:13,690
might be uncomfortable, right?
There's the research body of

680
00:33:13,690 --> 00:33:16,490
Andrew Huberman and in his lab
and what they're doing right now

681
00:33:16,810 --> 00:33:20,090
and quantifying breath and
meditation and different states

682
00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:22,410
are like, I think recently what
did I read that like there is

683
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:27,010
now a proven scientific benefit
of continuous out loud sighing

684
00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:29,370
that like just relaxes your
vagus nerve and like brings you

685
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:32,210
into a nervous system balance.
It's like, yeah, it's, it's

686
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,530
simple stuff like that that
would make you look like a

687
00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:36,890
weirdo if you do it in the
subway in New York.

688
00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:41,710
But or at work, you know, but
actually as a human in your own

689
00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:45,590
space that you're cultivating,
being in silence or toning or

690
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:48,430
sighing, those are really
powerful tools to do.

691
00:33:56,390 --> 00:33:59,710
And that's a good segue because
you did touch on humming and how

692
00:33:59,710 --> 00:34:02,430
that activates the
parasympathetic response and it

693
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:06,030
triggers the relaxation and that
ties into another.

694
00:33:48,550 --> 00:33:52,110
Honestly, I don't think anyone
who's a high, high performer, I

695
00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:54,710
don't think those exist anymore
without meditation.

696
00:33:54,790 --> 00:34:07,420
Gotta have access to that inner.
Area that you and I are both

697
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,139
passionate about, which is
breath work.

698
00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:11,820
I wanted to, if you could, talk
a little bit more about your

699
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:14,860
journey with breath work.
You know, the big picture about

700
00:34:14,860 --> 00:34:17,500
breath work, I believe, is it's
very simple.

701
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,300
Breath is fundamentally what
makes us human.

702
00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:22,980
Or you know what?
What, What animals and humans

703
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:24,940
share.
But what makes us human in the

704
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:28,580
sense that it connects our
spirit with our physical body?

705
00:34:28,659 --> 00:34:30,659
For me, breath comes back to
yoga.

706
00:34:30,659 --> 00:34:33,380
And yoga means union, right?
Which is the union between

707
00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:37,110
spirit and body.
And so breath is the act of

708
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:39,350
connecting our spirit with the
body.

709
00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:43,790
And pranayama and yoga or
breath, our breath work to me

710
00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:46,550
are they're not the same.
That's that's really clear.

711
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:50,820
But when I think of breath work,
I see this as the umbrella term

712
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:54,460
under which all of the different
styles of breathing happen.

713
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:57,020
So breath work isn't just
holotropic breathing or

714
00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:59,980
rebirthing breathing.
Breath work is also pranayama

715
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:02,860
breath work is also specific
breathing techniques.

716
00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:06,740
In Qigong, breath work is also
Kriya yoga, Kundalini yoga.

717
00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:08,940
Breath work is also whim of
breathing.

718
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:12,340
And so breath work is an
umbrella term for all of the

719
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:16,180
amazing modulations and
modalities of breathing.

720
00:35:16,460 --> 00:35:19,740
You don't need to learn any of
them and still be an active

721
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:22,100
nostril breather and get the
benefits of that.

722
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:24,460
So like as long as you're
breathing through in and out

723
00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:27,860
through your nose, you're
already one step ahead of most

724
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:29,260
people.
It's a whole book written by

725
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:31,980
that by James Nestor, who was on
green Planet, Blue Planet called

726
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:34,140
Breath.
How it's found me was with that

727
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:38,180
first yoga experience in India
in 2009 in form of pranayama,

728
00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:40,740
and then in forms of like
meditation, and then in forms of

729
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:43,140
kundalini yoga, and then in
forms of kriya yoga, and then in

730
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:46,380
forms of, you know, shamanic
medicines and and breath work

731
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:49,220
and lots of that.
And so about five years ago when

732
00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:52,500
I started, you know, moving from
my work in corporations and my

733
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,100
work as a consultant into
opening my own coaching and

734
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,700
consulting business, I also
started teaching breath work

735
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:01,820
because I realized I've been
studying for about 10 years.

736
00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:05,180
It's time to start sharing this.
I do think in general, like, you

737
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:07,700
can learn from anyone.
Like anyone can be your teacher,

738
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,100
but also be careful who you
choose to learn with.

739
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,860
Not everyone, you know, needs to
be a shaman because they had a

740
00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:15,420
medicine once and that everyone
needs to be a planned

741
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:17,820
facilitator or it needs to be a
breath facilitator because they,

742
00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:20,620
you know, they loved it once and
some people, they might love it

743
00:36:20,620 --> 00:36:22,060
once and they are a good teacher
at it.

744
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:24,980
So it's really about tuning in
to who you want to learn with

745
00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:28,360
and who you want to learn from.
But for this Nikki, for your

746
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,080
question, which I really, you
know, really appreciate, I think

747
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,440
it's important to understand
that breath and breathing and

748
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,560
breath work really is the
umbrella term of all of the

749
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,840
things that are within that from
muscle breathing, through open

750
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,200
mouth breathing, from soma
breath to whim of breath to

751
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,120
Andalini yoga.
And I think you made a good

752
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,200
point, Julian, is that a lot of
times what people do is they

753
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,920
overthink it.
And I've been in.

754
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:53,780
Breath work sessions or, you
know, group sessions where

755
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:57,020
people really get hung up and
they tend to beat themselves up

756
00:36:57,020 --> 00:37:01,420
like, oh, I'm not holding my my
breath whole time is is not long

757
00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:04,060
enough and I'm a failure.
And you know, then they give it

758
00:37:04,060 --> 00:37:05,540
up.
And it's just like, I think

759
00:37:05,540 --> 00:37:09,140
really it's about listening to
your body, listening to your

760
00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:11,840
rhythms.
And then you can guide yourself

761
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,720
into, you know the the cadence
and the rhythm that works for

762
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,200
you and and don't try to use
this one-size-fits-all approach

763
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,920
because as you said, there's so
many different approaches to it.

764
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,440
You know there's no one you know
1 dogma to to rule them all as

765
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,720
they say.
Well said, Yeah, absolutely

766
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,820
there is not.
And breath takes you into the

767
00:37:30,820 --> 00:37:33,580
present moment, and so if you're
still thinking, then you're

768
00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:36,300
probably not quite breathing it.
Right, exactly.

769
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:39,540
And I think it's the the heart,
heart, mind connection to that.

770
00:37:39,820 --> 00:37:43,700
We are so in our heads all the
time that I think what I find is

771
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,820
just that when I do a breath
work session, I usually in about

772
00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:50,900
20-30 minutes.
I just do feel that my decision

773
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:54,900
making, my intuition, is just so
much stronger that I'm seeing

774
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,140
the big picture and I'm not
getting so bogged down by the

775
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:00,020
minutia, you know, that we tend
to.

776
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,480
Yet engulfed in in our daytoday,
absolutely.

777
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,880
There was one interesting
concept, Julian, that you had

778
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,920
talked about in one of your
materials, which is the compass.

779
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,840
Could you talk about that, the
compass that talks about between

780
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,960
like will being and function.
I don't have a visual here that

781
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,760
I can show because it's a
podcast, but if you could talk

782
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,900
about that a little bit.
So this is one of the modules I

783
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:28,300
love to use within coaching
experiences with people and it

784
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:33,140
has to do with how we can
navigate the inner world so that

785
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:36,940
our inner work leads to outer
world success and productivity.

786
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:39,660
Or I don't love the word
productivity, effectiveness.

787
00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:44,030
And so the compass.
First of all, let's use the word

788
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:46,270
compass.
It's about having a true north.

789
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:48,830
If you don't have a true north,
where are you going?

790
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:52,070
True north could be family, True
north could be wanting to make a

791
00:38:52,070 --> 00:38:54,510
billion dollars.
True north could be just wanting

792
00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:57,150
to feel happy.
It's about having a true north.

793
00:38:57,150 --> 00:39:00,190
If you don't have a clear
direction, it's really difficult

794
00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:04,070
for life to meet you as an
active agent of life.

795
00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:06,190
You know, as someone who is
interactive with life.

796
00:39:06,190 --> 00:39:08,910
The three vertices are will,
function and being.

797
00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:11,840
Will is a little easier to
understand because most people

798
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,600
know the word willpower.
Will is more than willpower

799
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,200
though, because willpower is
kind of synonymous with like

800
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,520
powering through doing what it
takes.

801
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Will is a bit more refined than
that.

802
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,160
Will is understanding that you
can get where you want to get to

803
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:29,910
if you align with not just step
of actions, but the right energy

804
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:32,630
and the right focus on it.
So, for example, many people

805
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:35,270
know that that moment you know
if you're so obsessed with

806
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:37,430
something that you can't stop
thinking about it and you try to

807
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:39,910
apply all of your willpower to
get to this place, or sign up

808
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:42,630
this new client, or close that
deal, or raise that seed round

809
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:45,230
or whatever it is.
If you apply all that willpower,

810
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:48,830
it might or not might not work.
But if you apply your true your

811
00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:51,390
full will, that is the mix of
your willpower and actually your

812
00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:54,430
conscious ability to understand
where you are in the process,

813
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,800
then you know when to back off.
So you're not trying to hard and

814
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,640
you know when to lean in.
So you're coming into full

815
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,960
alignment function and being
function is super simple to

816
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,160
understand.
It's the function you're having

817
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,480
in a context.
If I am the waiter in a

818
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600
restaurant, then I'm the waiter
in a restaurant.

819
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:14,040
I'm not there to necessarily
prove a point to my client or to

820
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,640
sit down and eat in front of my
client.

821
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,040
No, I'm there to be the waiter
in the restaurant.

822
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,800
That's why it exists in this
triangle of the compass.

823
00:40:21,310 --> 00:40:25,750
That might not be off direction
to follow my compass N but for

824
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:29,230
the moment that I'm the waiter,
I understand that that's my job,

825
00:40:29,230 --> 00:40:30,950
that's my role.
And I take that series and I

826
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:33,790
show up with excellence and I
take my relationships in that

827
00:40:33,790 --> 00:40:36,390
context series as well.
And we could have made any other

828
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:39,110
example, but it's about fully
being in the function that

829
00:40:39,110 --> 00:40:40,670
you're in for the context that
you're in.

830
00:40:40,830 --> 00:40:44,230
A lot of people love the idea of
dreaming about the future and

831
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:46,510
the vision of what this company
is going to turn into or where

832
00:40:46,510 --> 00:40:48,750
we'll be one day.
But then they don't show up with

833
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,710
excellence in the function that
they hold today.

834
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:55,150
And then being is maybe the most
abstract, but it's really about

835
00:40:55,150 --> 00:40:56,870
the way we be, not the way we
do.

836
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:59,110
It's about the way it feels to
be around you.

837
00:40:59,470 --> 00:41:01,790
It's the way it feels for you to
be you the.

838
00:41:02,310 --> 00:41:05,430
Energy you give those three
probably, yeah, yeah, exactly.

839
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:08,870
And when those three come into,
you come into awareness about

840
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:13,640
them, you start to be able to
navigate any context with a bit

841
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,080
more of nuanced grace or a bit
more of depth of ability to

842
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,320
respond to life responsibility
is really just our our ability

843
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,760
to respond.
And so that's how I think like

844
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,520
kind of introductory,
introductory level to the

845
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,680
compass and what we mean with
that and the vertices of will

846
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,480
will being in function.
But really it's about using

847
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,120
this, leveraging this over and
over as the compass in your

848
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,600
internal context to then carry
it into the output.

849
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,160
So one question I have for you,
Julian, is that be the title of

850
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,520
this podcast is Untether Your
Life.

851
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,280
Now this is something that
applies across multiple

852
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,600
contexts, you know, whether it's
ways of managing your health,

853
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,280
whether it's your career or your
relationships, just really

854
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,960
breaking free of those templates
that we all grew up with.

855
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,240
My question to you, Julian, is
how would you tell listeners

856
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,800
what can they do to untether
their life?

857
00:42:08,350 --> 00:42:10,110
Yeah, I love the name of the
show, by the way.

858
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:11,590
I'm glad we're looping back to
it.

859
00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:16,150
It really depends on, you know,
again, your compass N it really

860
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:19,990
depends on where you want to go.
And everyone, you know, the end,

861
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:22,550
we all go to the same place, but
everyone kind of goes to a

862
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:25,100
different place.
The way I've done it, I wouldn't

863
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,820
recommend that to most people
because you need to have a

864
00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:30,900
similar disposition to me that
that works for you.

865
00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:33,860
You know, I I call I I jumped in
the cold water and learned how

866
00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:37,420
to swim a few times and just
like used courage and momentum

867
00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:40,500
and opportunity and ran with it
and that did work out and it is

868
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,420
working out for other people.
That would have been a disaster,

869
00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:44,540
right?
Because if you don't have a

870
00:42:44,540 --> 00:42:47,380
safety net, then jumping to
learn how to swim in cold water

871
00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:49,260
isn't the best way.
So it really depends on your

872
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:52,400
compass.
I think to untether again, we

873
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,920
want to understand that the
external world is a reflection

874
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,200
of your internal world and
untethering.

875
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,800
Step one is always to make
space, to have more buffer, more

876
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,600
room, more space with your
internal universe, your inner

877
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,600
verse, right?
So meditation helps, Going for

878
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,000
nature walks helps, putting your
phone away helps.

879
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,880
Untethering, for me also means
relationships.

880
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,320
Sometimes where we want to go
will simply mean that certain

881
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,600
people will be with us and other
people won't be with us.

882
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,040
That could be romantic
relationship, that could be

883
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,440
family, etcetera, etcetera.
So yeah, I think there's various

884
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
steps to untethering and the
first two would be, you know,

885
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,320
relationships and that inner
verse, I mean, we could, we

886
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,320
could hop on again and dive much
deeper.

887
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,560
But yeah, I really appreciate
that picture of untethering.

888
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,760
Because at the end of the day, I
mean, it's something that seems

889
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,120
so safe that there's this point
where it goes from safe to

890
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,080
stifling, You know, that's a
very fine line and I think.

891
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:55,210
Too many people because they
don't take, take advantage of a

892
00:43:55,210 --> 00:43:59,050
lot of these pretty easy tools
like meditation, breath work and

893
00:43:59,050 --> 00:44:01,730
things like that.
They they miss that fine line

894
00:44:01,730 --> 00:44:05,530
and they stay and that they stay
in that hamster wheel, that

895
00:44:05,530 --> 00:44:09,690
treadmill where they just keep
sort of chasing their tail and

896
00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:11,170
thinking things are going to go
different.

897
00:44:11,170 --> 00:44:14,610
As Einstein said, you know the
definition of insanity is doing

898
00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:17,770
the same things over and over
and expecting different results,

899
00:44:17,770 --> 00:44:21,420
so.
Now Julian if people are

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interested in learning more
about you or want to work with

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you where is the best way for
them to to connect with you or

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or find out more about the the
many amazing things you're

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working on.
Yeah and thank thanks so much

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for that question and I'm sure
you're gonna link out some of

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it.
You know all the social media is

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LinkedIn is the place.
It's it's Julian or Julian

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Gouderlai.
My my website for the podcast is

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green planet-blueplanet.com.
We have another page called

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alter method dot Co for Ultra
method which is a coaching

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business.
There's a few places, but

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LinkedIn is a good place to
start.

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Instagram is a good place to
start.

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YouTube is a good place to start
and I love for people to reach

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out.
You know, I answer most of my

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own messages sometimes it's my
team, but I definitely love the

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dialogue, love getting to know
people and also really love

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people that are clear on wanting
or looking for support.

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I do maybe want to end on this
one.

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Any high performer in a public
place, if that's it's like in a

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public kind of more like
celebrity space, if that's an

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actor, if that's a an athlete,
if that's a even a politician.

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They all have coaches and help
and support, and I've hired so

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many coaches.
I've even hired a therapist

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before because it's not that I
was so stuck that that was the

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only way out.
It was that I was clear that

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this is going to be so
supportive to me, that I'm going

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to become the person that I'm on
the direction to becoming more

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effectively.
And so anyone who's on the fence

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or anyone who's already hired a
coach before keep going because

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that's what professional people
do.

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They hire support.
They know that some things that

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do themselves, other things they
want that like top tier support

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with them.
And so yeah, I really like big

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shout out for everyone who's
who's in the business of

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supporting others because it's a
super needed niche in the world.

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Well, thanks so much, Julian.
This was a great discussion and

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I really look forward to.
Seeing what 2023 brings for you.

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Awesome.
Nikhil, thank you so much for

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having me that I love it.
I love the show and keep it up.

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Great work.
Thank you.

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Thanks so much for listening and
I hope you enjoyed that episode.

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